guys i was wondering whats the best magic with conjurer and is explosion conjurer good? ive been planning to reset it since itd be fun and from the videos ive been watching its a bit split.
(In order, left is the best in the tier right is the worst in the tier, this is mostly opinionated but you’re free to question the reasoning and ill try to answer as best as I can)
S tier: Fire, Plasma
A tier: Snow, Wind, Poison, Light, Shadow, Ash
B tier: Sand, Wood, Water, Acid, Crystal, Explosion, Glass
C tier: Earth, Metal, Lightning
F tier: Magma, Ice
This is a combination of utility, damage, size, speed, arcmancer, looks and synergies for general use conjurer magics.
thanks for the info and i have 2 questions whats arcmancer? and why is ice and magma the worst for conjurers again thanks for the info ![]()
starting with your first question, arcmancer is special class gear that any class that uses magic gets. each magic gets unique stats on the gear and arcmancer is the best of the 3 different types (arcmancer, arcanium armor which give less stats for resistance, and arcanium coats which give less stats for intensity)
since weapons dont get class gear, the only good gear you’ll have as conjurer outside of sunkens and boss items is modified arcmancer gear
as for ice and magma, ice has pretty bad imbue stats and synergies (it clears bleed for 10% more damage on imbue when bleed does 20% over 5 seconds, so you’re effectively decreasing your total damage output per move by 10%, it also can’t be used underwater) its basically outclassed by snow in every way imaginable, magma is in a similar boat with bad imbue stats, and can’t be used underwater. however, magma has a decent DoT and decent arcmancer so its not a horrible choice just its imbue stats are pretty bad
additionally imo magma looks ugly, but now that im thinking about it a bit more id say its more viable than ice so ill fix that
ok so now i got a question. fire is S tier but it also cant be used under water like magma, also doesnt it clear bleed the same as ice?
correct, however fire has good imbue stats, one of the best DoTs for general use (really high damage per tick and a good duration so you aren’t forced to play aggressive), and arguably the best arcmancer in the game (also every heat magic clears bleed, the only DoT magic that doesn’t is poison otherwise a magic has to justify clearing bleed and not having its own DoT take its place)
lightning is in the same boat as ice, but it has better imbues and synergies and it has tp dodge reflex which is really good
the difference between tiers aren’t drastic, like fire isnt 5x better than ice or anything, this is just for basically minmaxing since everything is viable in some way (a lot of these could be swapped with their neighbors depending on who you ask)
i refuse to be part of the magma glazers
they lack the conviction to glaze, ive seen them break character and admit its the worst magic out right now and that lack of loyalty disgusts me
wind on the other hand..
Can I ask why would you put Acid in B tier? I remember clearly people used to say it was the best to use as a conjurer
A month or so ago it received huge nerfs in the form of a .05x size decrease and a rework to its synergy with bleed.
Previously it was a 7.5% (3.75% when imbued) damage increase to bleeding targets without clearing bleed, however now it is a 15% (7.5% when imbued) damage increased to bleeding targets but now it clears bleed. (The Dual DoT made it really strong)
Some people overreact and say that its the worst conjurer now, which isn’t true, but its certainly a shell of its former glory as the best.
Lightning conjurer should be rated higher imo
Atleast B tier or at best A Tier
I can’t believe I glossed over this, damn. Thank you for answering
Maybe
I could see it being better than earth and metal currently, but taking into account the buff both of those are getting in Full Release, I can’t see it being over them.
The highest I’d place it is above explosion and below crystal.
Feel a bit humiliated as lightning conjurer
On the bright side, if I took looks into higher consideration it’d be A tier
Lightning conjurer looks really drippy
Just, it’s only positives is its decent imbue and its instant dodge reflex
It’s got bad bleed synergy and bad arcmancer
Conjurer are eating good with Arcanium weapon in full release
Agreed, also the greases which will heavily shift this list around, so really this is going to be outdated in a few months
Shadow will probably take the biggest hit to placement
There is one Arcanium weapon that is missing
Arcanium dagger doesn’t get mention
I don’t really like Grease because I prefer no debuff

