Forgot to post this here

Counterpoint to your counterpoint: Elius has unlimited 150 HP healing potions that he can use every thirty seconds.

counterpoint to your counterpoint to my counterpoint: Carina outheals Ellius by 60 hp each 30 secs

Counterpoint to your counterpoint of my counterpoint to your counterpoint: Elius’s DPS far exceeds Carina, and he has the advantage of being able to keep a distance.

Carina cant outdamage Elius tho. Elius’s attacks do much more damage than Carina’s and he can dash further distances

in other words
counterpoint: nuh uh cause i said so

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Basically, yes.

There is no fault in that statement

their souls would NOT be sent to elysium as heroes to enjoy an eternity of vicarity

you didnt necessarily have to be good, just great. calvus would go but elius and carina wouldnt
it would be cool to have an elius-carina dual boss battle tho, with elius teleporting around on the ground and carina punching you over and over

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counterpoint to your counterpoint to my counterpoint of your counterpoint to my counterpoint: carina can stun-lock with combo’s & grabs

Counterpoint to your counterpoint of my counterpoint of your counterpoint of my counterpoint to your point: Elius can still dodge while in m1 hit stun, and usually tries to stay above his opponents, something Carina doesn’t really have the tools to deal with.

final counterpoint to both of these: Nuh-uh!