How Would YOU Rework Oracle?

I’ve been seeing a lot of people complain about Oracle feeling like an unfinished version of Mage and Warrior, so I kind of want to see how y’all would change it in-detail.

I haven’t personally put much thought into it, but if I had to change it, I’d change most Rites to be focused on summons and predicting enemy movements.

  • Stuff like Spirit Blast and Spirit Walk can stay as they are.
  • Stuff like Spirit Hound could create animal-based Spirit Minions with different behaviors. For example, Spirit Wolves could follow an enemy around as they move, while Spirit Bears could stay in one spot and do more damage if an enemy moves near them.
  • Other Rites could create projectiles or zones that create damaging projectiles after a short delay, such as a Spirit Boar summon causing a Boar to charge forward after a bit. Spirit Barrage does this already.
    • One other idea I had for this was creating a ball of Spirit Energy that formed into a chain that shoots towards the nearest enemy, slowing them down if it hits? Best way I can describe it is “Cenobite/Pinhead gameplay in Dead by Daylight.”

In my opinion the biggest issue is just how spirit works in general, innate regeneration on hit isn’t that interesting of a gimmick and the unique rite effects don’t really make up for it. Compound this with how limited the synergies are for god soul’s currently and you can see why the class seems rather unappealing

It also doesn’t help that most of the current generic rites are just recolors of current magic skills but without the added benefit of applying some kind of effect on hit (which can be attributed to the regen on hit but still)

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I feel this way about Weapons actually, to an extent; Weapons do get unique skills, but a good chunk of them replicate pre-existing Spells or Techniques. Piercing Gale is Blast, Shield Bash is Crash, any grab is just a better version of Rushdown, etc. Before Full Release, Weapons also had next to no diversity with statuses; the only synergy that existed as far as I know was Triasta of Bronze → Scald Tooth Dagger.

The problem with Oracle is the fact that theres only 5 relics and 2 god souls available right now.

it’d feel much better if it had more content.

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They made God Souls something that is incredibly rare, as it’s… literally the Soul of a God.

There’s of course going to be very few in the game, but that just makes Oracle suffer even further.

The relics are supposedly of a lower tier, as to why they are so gosh darn awful, in the future we’ll get higher tiers of the same blessings bestowed by gods on the relics, but I cannot wait for that long, especially not when at basis; the eagle patrimony reigns supreme.

Tbh I just want more zoning rites, I want more stuff like aithoro

In addition, the rites exclusive to certain gods’ relics can stay, and you’d still be able to swap relics and rites out

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deleting it, spirit is a mistake

“spirit is lame” nope you are lame buddy

I’m gonna become king of the oracles

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@BlueFighter15, the Magic King, vs. @westloonlake, the God’s Avatar.

ngl i would pay to see that

king of mage from temu

I’d win

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Don’t you ever make this foolish claim again

This is the equivalent of saying dagger throw is basically magic blast, like no, and also piercing gale pierces through like all spells/skills too.

If ANYTHING, by your logic, cannon is a replicate of piercing gale

That last sentence is mostly a joke, but piercing gale my beloved

Yeah, i think the “our Relics are lower tier” thing is kinda crazy.

Like, if this is supposed to be the equivalent of level ~50 Weapons… Why are they all so expensive??? This would be like if Warrior couldn’t use all the skills on Sunken Staff. These “low tier” relics are on the same cost spectrum as level 100+ weapons, and its bad enough that we have so few spells to go along with it. No diversity + the problem of them just… not having the greatest arsenal makes it feel like we’re being dragged behind just to get the bare minimum

A great example of relics being bumfuck not planned correctly; I ran Eagle Patrimony all the way to Allanon, where I eventually switched to knight and beat him.

I never got another Relic, because there’s nothing guiding the player towards said new Relic.

When I did eventually go back to Oracle to test out the other Relics after wasting a considerable amount of time getting them; downright disappointing, for something that requires more average time than getting rare or lost spell scrolls is downright silly.

I switched to juggarnaut, but it felt… lackluster, so now I’m a good ol’ fashioned warrior and my damage has doubled than what I had before with an Oath Diamond active.

Wonderful.

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Delamere existing might just be definitive proof of torture:

  • A High Level Positive Renown NPC (You won’t find him on 90% of the bounty boards unless you have a brig, and most people are positive renown, so they won’t attack him anyways).

  • Has like 5 other items to drop alongside a chance to drop an item in the first place.

  • Spawns in with a stupidly geared out ship when he decides to go sailing in some random part of the world, basically forcing you to own a decently built brig to fight him 50% of the time.

  • His Relic comes with a move you can’t even use; right after seeing him use it.

  • His Relic looks like an accessory, just in case you were scrolling through the auction to look for them.

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and then the relic sucks more ass than eagle patrimony so you either keep it in your inventory or sell it for absurd prices.

woah woah woah woah woah.

The crystal orb has the best rite in the entire game, the base skills it has like spirit burst are mid, however, Aithoro is so genuinely so good that it literally defines how I play oracle. Without it I think oracle would be C tier pvp wise, but with it, it’s a solid B

It’s the best zoning skill in the game imo, although a clone of annilation. Its easy to throw out and you can have it up almost constantly and it has a pulse size of a small island/entire arena. It’s great for doing chip damage against opponents during times of stalemate. The only time I genuinely struggle in pvp is when I fight warlords, otherwise I do pretty well.

Ult art aithoro for reference

It is unironically the BEST relic in the game.

additionally the patrimony is carried by astrapikis, its other exclusive is useless

hey funny thing is, im LITERALLY RIGHT NOW FARMING DELAMERE!! with luck V and all currently three kills have dropped nada

yeah no i glaze crystal orb too hard, also i cant say here cause they might change it but.. imbuements on other things :eyes: