What items would be worth it for a Hard Vastira/Heavy WoJ?

Title says it all.

Imagine I want to get into trading looking for either of these items, what should I offer for these?

(If going to reply about it, mention what the hard vast would be worth, then what the heavy WoJ would be worth, do it by separate to avoid confusion)

a heavy woj is worth a clean oath
a hard axe is worth a hard oath

why? wojs are worth less than oaths so the best enchant woj= middle enchant/clean oath
same for axes compared to oaths, middle enchant= worse enchant

otherwise you can always offer a bunch of boss armours, like 4-5 for the hard axe and 6 for the heavy woj (let em be clean)

Thanks for the info.

If I ever wanted one now I know what I need.

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