When will we get absurdly strong

Yes exactly, so he had us go kill their king (I mean not directly, but it was pretty clear what we were planning to do), then bailed us out when were in Wind-Row. It’s called outsourcing your work.

Whom he did not directly want to face directly was Keraxe at that moment, and the reason for that is pretty obvious.

“A grand piano fell on my femur” type shit

“If this homeless hobo I found at the foot of a mountain can’t kill Calvus… I’m done for!

Bitch genuinely didn’t do shit. We fought our way through the blockade ourselves, and the Bronze Legion was in too big of a disarray to follow us, and then we also had to fight the furry polycule on Wind-Row.

Ally with Sameria, get Cloud curse back or at least steal the Glass curse from Ravenna, use the curse as leverage for Skyhall to also join and just gank Keraxe
If he weren’t a fraud he literally could have sensed Ormolu and also taken the Crystal curse for no effort at all, bringing the Azura-Sameria-Skyhall alliance up to at least 6 curses

Speaking of Warren why does is seem like Berringer was just forgotten? Like an emissary getting kidnapped and murdered seems like it should be a bigger deal than it is, especially if someone shows up later suspiciously having their curse which was kinda the Orders entire plan.

This act alone would casually cause wars even more so he was a curse user and vetex loves glazing curses and how important and coveted they are yet his kingdom has done literally nothing in response. A literal murder hobo (Silas) who is a bum managed to kill calvus the Azura kingdom has no excuse.

Now that the goat (octavious) is gone, Azura could genuinely steamroll Ravenna in a week at most. They could probably get absolutely crushed by literally any kingdom that isn’t Skyhall (and maybe Frosthelm(

Yeah considering Jullian couldn’t kill Morden a baby curse user who actually hates and refuses to use his curse, Warren could destroy all of Ravena in an afternoon get their cloud curse back, get the glass curse, and any curse Ravenna has in storage if any

while i do agree with what youre saying, inferno is not the strongest curse

Used to be Prometheus but that was nuked so the title likely falls between all the grand fires now I would imagine

Cursebeard and Theos are not in the top 10 of the verse.

Are we considering gods and dragons in this top 10 or just humans/demi gods-legacies

I didn’t state they were top 10 - they did - I stated we are never reaching top 10.

Yeah, but uhm why should we tho? Like was it ever stated we could take down Wotan or Warren?

No, they stated we’d be right below Theos, indirectly saying we’d be able to take down Warren and Wotan.

I stated that wouldn’t be a possibility.

Quite the opposite actually

In order from unbelievably strong to relatively weak:

  • The Eleven Unknowns

Large strength gap

  • Arthur the Cursebeard

Medium strength gap

  • Theos the War Phoenix

  • Grand Admiral of A.G.

  • Durza, the Dark Wizard

  • Undead Prometheus (power is limited by Durza)

  • One Shot Pirate commanders 1-10

LARGE strength gap

  • A.G. Fleet Admirals

  • Kraken, Ravager of the Seas (Fourth Sea)

  • Trigno, Averill and Rupin (Fourth Sea)

  • Verdies, the Resolved (Fifth Sea)

  • Polemos

  • Sage, Romulus (Fourth Sea)

  • One Shot Pirate commanders 11+

Medium strength gap

  • Trigno (First-Third Seas)

  • A.G. Admirals

  • Holden

  • Kraken, Ravager of the Seas

Medium strength gap

  • Averill (Third Sea)

  • Sage (Second Sea)

  • Verdies (First Sea)

  • Vasco, the Emperor’s Fist

  • Averill (First/Second Sea)

  • Romulus (First-Third Seas)

Here’s the ancient power list which dates back to times of AA, idk if it will be of any help, but yeah, I will just leave it here.

Weren’t they nuked forever ago?

Si

Ja

I really doubt so, maybe they were changed a little like less members and overall power and etc, but their mentions can still be seen in things like riddles (which are canon is some way)