i wouldn’t say “this is garbage” is toxic
the whole suggestion was literally “me cant most of 9 weps, make savant have 1 spirit slot”, if u straight up have more fun using 1 or 2 specific stuff from ur build, then go on a pure build (or hybrid) that uses said stuff
not an professional, but i think they dont like the person for suggesting an possible nerf to an already hard-to-play class.
did they mean weapon slots btw?
if no, idk
yeah
I can’t really make people do what I do, so I just do it mainly for my sake
Feel free to do what I do though
I participated in this, I now understand what people call “double standards”. As much as I disliked this response, when Vet says this
I consider the suggestion these posts were replying to (which wasn’t an isolated one either), to push much more toxicity than we ever could.
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They really givin’ this shit to anyone brah tsk tsk tsk 
While it is true that the core issue of eight keybinds being way too much was a valid thing to be worried about, it’s also true that I went the wrong way about suggesting a fix for this.
But on the other end I also saw certain people (I won’t name any names) just write without even trying to think. I had that suggestion closed because I knew people were just gonna gloss over the fact that I already said that yeah that was a bad suggestion.
Ultimately the core issue is getting resolved in a better way.
I’m gonna use this in the future, people continue to claim some features would be “too hard” for vetex to design but it makes no sense at all when even he claims its insulting. Vetex made a game this complex by himself and yet you guys think he cant do things like coding dual wielding.
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Because i’m burnt out and I also don’t have access to digital art. 
I’m just gonna go ahead and say that Vetex cultivated this kind of community
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Usually I take a few steps to make sure my suggestion is good (except for 1).
- Think of the negatives of the suggestion
- Outline the positives of the suggestion
- Break the suggestion into 2 or 3 parts via pictures so that people have an easier time reading
- Add a bit of humor (if applicable)
- Think of how it should be implemented from a game Dev’s perspective (coding experience helps a ton)
- Is the suggestion necessary?
- Does it solve an annoying problem the game already has?
I’ll try to defend each of these messages.
BlueFighter15 #1: Not really toxic? Maybe? I’m not too sure, but i’d assume that not really because there has been a certain surge of complaints for stuff that hasn’t even been released.
Aine #1: Actual fact, i’ve seen multiple suggestions that are very bad quality. (Also an opinion)
EdEdward #1: An opinion
TheoreticalExistence #1: Yeah this one is genuine toxicity but on reasonable anger.
BlueFighter15 #2: Probably not a fact, but an opinion nonetheless
TheoreticalExistence #2: Uhm whar? No context, not toxic.
ini332yes #1: On one, it is sort of true (taking into account that it was a horrible suggestion), on the other, the wording made it toxic.
Actravaz #1: Uhm whar? gib context plz
BlueFighter15 #3: This is just ini332yes but with the toxicity only.
Personal opinion: The suggestion MAYBE didn’t deserve a lot of hate, but a good part of it was on reasonable terms since the suggestion wanted to make savants weaker or ‘‘simpler’’ just because one’s own inability to properly use it. (Plus, he could just use less weapons, it is always optional to use said weapons)
If this was implemented, it would ruin savant’s whole concept that is ‘‘Jack of all trades’’ by making them less versatile (even if they had one single weapon).
Lastly, the suggestion didn’t make that much sense since anyone can wield multiple weapons and know how to use them, at least a part of them. It wouldn’t make sense if one could only know how to use one weapon even though they are more than capable of using more.
Tbh, I think it was the community itself that cultivated it, since Vetex wasn’t necessarily toxic, it’s just that he occasionally has outbursts because of his frustration of the community
The suggestion is not good but the way people worded their criticism to it is vague and deconstructive. Even if the reason for why it’s a bad suggestion is obvious it doesn’t take more than a few seconds typing out an explanation on why it’s an obviously bad suggestion.
Some people can’t see the obvious but that doesn’t justify you being a dick not explaining why.
Some people don’t deserve suggestor, but some also don’t deserve to be able to rate suggestions at all
If you can’t see something that obvious I don’t see why you should be allowed to suggest anything to begin with.
This was a suggestion that just made the game worse for everyone with no upside, I’d say it was criticized exactly as it should have been.
Exactly 0 thought was put into the suggestion.
None of the important questions were asked.
No logic was used.
Solutions already in the game to solve the problem presented were not utilized.
Consequences were not considered.
A complete and utter failure of a suggestion on all accounts.
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Not all the messages shown in there were 100% toxic though, plus, he’s actually cutting out some messages (there were more messages in said suggestion), and some aren’t even toxic at all…