A Mutation Chart Odyssey

it doesn’t sound very, positive even by the game’s standards, which is basically the most neutral thing when it comes to describing magic’s properties.

“ominious shadows that drain grace and color from all they touch” doesn’t really sound particularly neutral

that doesn’t really sound evil to me, all it really does is temporarily remove colours from things, that has no alignment

“ominous”

“drains the grace from things”

how is that neutral…?

“ominous” is just the common peception of it, people have been scared of shadows and the dark for ages so of course a magic that resembles it will be feared and considered ominous, and that’s again just thoughts, not properties

how exactly does it “drain the grace from things”? all the magic does is remove colours, so i think the word grace here is just referring to that and that vetex needed a second adjective to use, still not evil

the game literally calls it ominous that’s not a person that’s the damn program telling you it’s freaky :sob:

I seriously doubt vetex would write an extra descriptive word for a base magic without any reason to.

nothing “ominous” is objective, ominous by definition is an impression, an opinion, not a property

and yet, ultimately, such an impression has been given to us by an omnipresent, all knowing, and all powerful magic selection screen. It holds no bias, it’s not meant to, it tells the player what they’re allowed to pick.

also, not to mention, but vetex himself has directly addressed shadow magic as “some evil energy”, so clearly it’s not a neutral magic.

tell me how it “drains the grace from things” them and what exactly that even means

it’s most likely just referring to the colour drain ability, i can see colour being associated with “grace”, and a lack, well, lacking

Judgement befalls thee…

Vetex really stereotyping an entire branch of magic

Well, his word is absolute, it’s his story after all.

I don’t think there’s anything else that needs to be said, vet called shadow himself a dodgy magic, that’s set in stone as far as I know.

C’mon, this is vetex we’re talking about

it still uses a word defined by uncertainty and subjectiveness, it is just stating the common perception of the magic or simply the fact that shadows are feared

i don’t care what vetex thinks because this is stupid, no power unless it is physically only able to be used to commit evil deeds is evil, everything depends on how you use it and what you use it for

“evil-ish”, even vetex himself speaks with uncertainty when describing this magic

“evil-ish” can just refer to how it and shadows themselves are perceived, that being fearfully and of containing evil intent

How many times must I say it.

ALL OF THESE MAGICS, JUST TO BE FODDER FOR WHEN MOROCK DECIDES TO UTILISE 0.00001% OF HIS POWER AND USING ONLY 1 FINGER LOL!!!

Morock solos

Hell, with the recent changes to magic any magic is capable of both good and evil deeds.

yea, you can commit murder or whatever with any magic, tools have no morality, only the person using them

look man, until there’s some amazing new lore revelation that drops, Vetex has spoken, and he says that shadow is an “evlish” magic, which, quite frankly, perception or not, basically confirms my argument.

even if it sounds uncertain it’s not like he’s saying anything else about it, he even says “it’s not that deep” which, like, yea, it’s just weird evil dark energy.

Trying to predict the lost / ancient hecate mutations for magics is like trying to piece together a puzzle when you not only have just half of the pieces to it, but have some pieces to a completely different puzzle.