AI Draws Neviro

agreed

ok let’s get one thing straight: image generation IS STILL creativity.
just because the process is different doesn’t mean it lacks the same essence :man_shrugging:

as I’ve mentioned before, creativity & art isn’t bound to traditional mediums or methods, it’s about expressing ideas, emotions, perspectives etc etc. AI image generation is juuust another tool in the artist’s toolbox (not that I consider myself an artist, yes? drawing-wise) like photography, digital painting or sculputre.
honestly, the key is the intent behind the work, if ur guiding ai with a specific vision in mind, you’re still being creative lol. this is a vital point many of you just miss…

buuut, if we’re STILL going to dismiss this beautiful, uncanny portrait of neviro as “not creative,” then we’d have to dismiss countless forms of modern creativity.
what about artists who use algorithms or code to create their works, or someone who uses pre-existing materials to create something entirely new?

creavity is practically about HOW you make something, not what you use to make it.

also, ‘subjective’ means that it varies on the subject (e.g, what I see as creative might not seem creative to you, despite what I literally just explained :sob:)

yeah can we kill this guy with hammers

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baitusedtobebelievable

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who

Everyone here

me too

The more the merrier as they say

KILL WHO
what are you talking about

So logically speaking, we shouldn’t be thinking of doing something about it at all? If that’s the case, then don’t complain about it being too hot outside. Ever. You’ll begin to see why that idea falls flat pretty quickly.

A.I. image generators form themselves from being fed analog (human-made) pieces, oftentimes against their will, whether it be from spontaneous ToS updates or random announcements from a company head. Judging by the way you think of A.I. generators, I’m going to assume you’d say “Just delete everything and go to a different site,” but there’s not a lot of good places for artists to go. Twitter, while losing users because of a fucking nazi being in charge of it, is still used considerably by a lot of people, so it’s one of the best or better places for an artist’s followbase to be. Instagram is the same story with a different face behind it.

Bluesky is probably the only decent place, since it won’t force-feed an A.I. your posts, but it’s smaller than Twitter, and will likely stay that way for a while. Bluesky is also basically pre-HIM Twitter, so it’s not a full upgrade, either.

Even if it’s not a problem from a company’s idiot being a company’s idiot, there’s a lot of people who scrape sites individually to feed their own A.I. system. If you’re an artist stuck on a larger, A.I.-happy site, you’re screwed. If you’re an artist on one that would rather shut down than implement it, you’re still screwed. No matter how you slice it, A.I. image generators steal content for their own gain.

This also works against your argument that A.I. is just another form of creativity; you’re guiding a machine that stole work to make itself to basically trace said work into a different form. A similar argument would be calling yourself a chef by putting extra salt on a restaurant’s steak, or by calling yourself an artist when you commission work from somebody else. You didn’t make it, but you’re functionally taking the credit for it.

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That’s… still the artist coding to make the art… also you aren’t USING tools in a sense the tool here is REPLACING you because IT IS doing the art for you

Also you are deconstructing your own arguement with your own words, you MAKE something with anything as you say is the definition of creativity. you are not making something here.

no… just no

I’ma put it straight to you:
90% of people here do not like AI and posting AI art here was a bad idea.

Getting jumped was an inevitability lol.
There was absolutely no way you were getting out of this without being berated.

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I’m also 100% certain you didn’t make the image generator that created this Neviro arcane odyssey (which by the way, would actually be something creative by your definition unless it’s that stupid and vague) so lol

Can we kill me with hammers too

I only care when AI art looks bad, and I think this is way above usual for AI
That’s not to say you aren’t asking for trouble if you share AI content on the AO forums.
I just think it’s interesting to see an interpretation of Neviro in a realistic style, frankly.

I can see why we’d want to avoid setting this as standard, but it’s not becoming a problem or anything.

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finally a normal person

Ehh I still think you’re pushing it.

what the fuck is this

I only care when AI art looks good because it shouldn’t be capable of fully replacing artists.