been asking that since launch I have no clue at all
the only time iâve used a single beam since WoM was on my conjurer
and thatâs solely because he has 100 magic which isnât enough to adjust the amount of beams there are
There is a pretty cool suggestion about placed explosions and how they should be reworked to be less âbraindeadâ. Other than the overall size nerfs, that is.
True. Single beams are honestly obsolete when compared to double beams. Multiple beams still have higher total damage so might still be somewhat useful, but double beams are just superior versions of single beams.
to punish hybrids with 100 magic 150 else 
Safe. 120/130 here LOL
the thing is that the doc has the placed explosion rework as the ONLY thing theyâd do to placed explosions, and itâs only experimental, nowhere NEAR confirmed.
iâm convinced that they need to put other nerfs onto the placed explosion in the pretty likely case that the rework doesnât happen, which, unfortunately, i donât know what theyâd do, as the problem with placed explosion is still present no matter what you do to its size or damage
True. If these placed explosions nerf doesnât happen, they will probably continue to be a problem.
Considering how oppressive explosions are at the moment, being a bit more⌠âenergeticâ with their nerfs might be a good idea.
Especially when there are lots of âbuildsâ out there that basically consist in getting near someone and just charging explosion to max size once. LOL
the âproblemâ iâm talking about is this:
you donât need to determine where your opponent will be like with blasts
you donât need to stay too closeby (they work at around the same range as beams, maybe less, maybe more)
all you have to do is keep your cursor at their general area and boom, free damage. itâs also too fast for someone to reliably block/parry, but even if it was slowed, itâd be the ONLY thing theyâd do, and then it becomes sort of pointless
then again, blasts stay around for more than long enough for people to reliably block/parry them, and people get hit anyway, so i donât really know
maybe itâs SLIGHTLY like (forgive me for this) deepwoken where every move you can do (i think) is parryable, but people just donât sometimes and boom, they lose, and the combat is still generally regarded as good
edit: nvm just remembered that you can feint things in deepwoken and thatâs why people get hit, completely disregard my comparison lol
The placed explosions rework would at least HELP to mitigate that problem. It probably wouldnât be enough to completely solve it though, since placed explosions would still⌠kinda be a better version of blast with huge range.
range as in distance from you, or AoE? because blasts are the winner of the former
AoE.
Placed explosions have a very big AoE and a decent range on top of that. So in MOST cases, using placed explosions is just a better alternative
anyway iâm gonna be afk for a good while starting now, so if anyone has anything to say to me, i wonât be here to respond in like 30m to an hour
Not a fan of this change. I understand the sentiment, but at bare minimum make it so that health gained from Vitality boosts your base HP regen, even if Defense is no longer a factor. This change is aiming to make the worst stat in the game even worse.
HP regen is only a problem in two scenarios:
- Fights where both players are of low skill, and struggle to deal damage quickly or deal a finishing blow. Fights between skilled players (or involving at least one skilled player) tend to end very quickly in this game, even when tankier builds are involved, though they certainly slow things down a bit (as per their nature).
- Fights where the player with the larger health pool crutches on health regeneration by running for prolonged periods of time. This is a problem of running, not of health regen.
I donât think Testers realize how pitiful Vitality is going to be if this change goes through. It reduces your damage, reduces your energy, keeps you stuck at a lower tier, and is a point investment that unlocks nothing for you in return, in exchange for increased HP, and faster HP regen thanks to your boosted max health. Why remove half of what makes it a stat even vaguely worth consideration?
Vitality, and tank builds in general, donât find their strength solely from their HP pool. Itâs about outlasting. This change takes away from that part of their identity almost entirely. I donât even think Spirit Weapons will be able to save Vitality if their health no longer has any effect on their regen at all.
Nerf HP regen overall if you have to, but this just isnât the play. Vitality builds are not an issue. Tank builds are not an issue. The only real abusers of high HP as it stands are 90 Vitality / 160 Magic Mages, which are already getting removed.
Youâre gutting the worst stat to fix a non-existent problem.
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fr bro I swear to god some tester has a vendetta against the stat , HP in the game in general is already pretty ass (Hard enchant use rate has to be 1/15 that of Strong or less) and by extension so is Vitality , why theyâre tryna nerf an already struggling stat is beyond me
god forbid you run anything that isnât Power or Attack Size 
Point is, if that is in fact âthe range,â he was also in range in the first clip. And yet it didnât connect, despite the target also not blocking. Hence snare being buggy and unreliable. And therefore not a particularly good move.
And once again, I hold the claim that âno identityâ is not an identity, or at least not a particularly good one. The incentives to use the magic usually then devolve into either A, using it because itâs edgy, or B, using it because itâs m e t a and has good stats.
you fr trying to tell me that this isnât in range for a snare?
When against a poison user you can block the first hit and the DoT will be based of the blocked dmg. Meaning for the next 20 seconds you are just fighting someone with piss poor base dmg cause the DoT is legit meaningless and gets easily out healed. If a poison mage uses pulsar to initiate well then even if you donât block, the DoT will be abysmal (or practically nothing if you block) for the next 20 seconds.
Very reliable when you learn how to use it. Donât aim where they are, aim where they were. Youâll start to hit it almost every time, the rubberbanding that occurs afterwards throws a lot of people off as well
A problem that technically wasnât 100% addressed. The dash stall mechanics wonât change much things to players that basically spam AoE attacks backwards (like greatsword mountain winds) while continuing running nonstop. Right? At least that was the feeling i had when i read about the dash stalling changes.
I donât use vitality, since itâs not really a VIABLE option for hybrid builds, which are already starved for points for specific breakpoints. Regardless, I do agree that the future looks REALLY bad for Vitality. Even with the promise of future âspirit weaponsâ, after seeing it being nerfed so much, one canât hope but to think it if itâll even be worth investing in vit afterwards.
The same problem has been happening with a few things now. If the problem is SPECIFICALLY HP REGEN, then target the specific problem instead of touching on VIT as a whole.
Hence why Itâs DEFINITELY worth considering the QoL change for DoT status that Iâve suggested earlier.
Just make it so a DoT status effect CAN overwrite another, lower instance of itself.