there’s nothing wrong with giving characters OP abilities
being powerful does not equal being a mary sue
a mary sue is something with literally no flaws and is incapable of wrong
characters like saitama and goku are very powerful, but have flaws and unique writing which makes them great characters imo
overpowered characters =/= bad
Just because of the fact that a character is extremely powerful (for example, Superman) does not necessarily mean they are a bad character.
I bring superheroes up a lot on this forum, but a good example is the Flash. His whole thing is going fast, but he has to struggle with the dilemma of just not being fast enough, and the inability to save everyone. Yeah, he can time-travel, which he actually did before when he went back in time to the moment his mother was going to be murdered and saved her, which inadvertently resulted in an alteration of events that turns the entire world into a living Orwellian, dark, and murderous dystopia. He obviously does revert the timeline to normal again at the very end, but nonetheless does not ever time travel thereafter.
you know everyone talks about mary sues a lot but I think maybe it’s also important to bring up the fact that anti-sues are just as bad, if not worse
dawg wth
wdym wth
¨Anti-Sue¨ is unfortunately not a component of my bigger-than-average vocabulary (help).
is it like the opposite of a mary sue
Give em’ trauma! I’m not talking about that ‘my dog died, boo hoo’ type of trauma, I mean Berserk-level trauma that’ll mess you up for days . Easiest way for character development 
so a mary sue is someone who is friends with everyone, super perfect, no flaws, gets everything right.
an anti sue is the complete opposite of that, they are horrible, detestable, terrible characters that cannot do anything good, they are insufferably mean and spiteful and have next to no redeeming qualities
mary sues are bad because they get too predictable, and can make readers or viewers bored easily
anti sues can literally drive away audiences, like, who wants to read about a person who’s an absolute dick for no reason?
but is there not “good“ villian characrers tho
too baby-level
only days? smh
what?? no
an anti sue can be a protagonist as well, just, they have no positive qualities and go overboard with negatives, polar opposite to mary sues
No, I mean good as in being extremely evil but well-written.
well an evil bad character needs a reason to be evil and bad
an anti sue is basically just a dick for no reason, and is also always failing in everything they do
(this is really not that hard of a concept oh my god it’s just the polar opposite of a mary sue)
I wouldn’t call the the opposite of a mary sue, IMO the opposite of a mary sue would be a character that’s extremely weak or flawed. However, I find that these characters typically have great potential because starting at the bottom means they have a lot of room for growth. People love an underdog or zero to hero story, after all.
The type of irredeemable character you described isn’t really any kind of archetype, it’s just a poorly written character
wdym that sounds funny
could be a comedy character, i’d def check out a book with them
actually i kinda get it but idk sounds funny asf
idk a character that’s just there to be made fun of is called like a jerkass ball or something last time I checked
or like a joke monkey
an anti sue is a character that’s not trying to be a joke character but well, is still overly flawed beyond redemption
this terminology transcends my human brain
when you’re smarter than the nerd 