If we talk about gameplay then the deepwoken characters never tire from running either. Silas gets tired with dodging deepwoken doesn’t
Difference is, the AO dodge goes MUCH further, if we use the reflex then it’s even further. And with Silas using lightning, he utilizes the instantaneous reflex which gets him out of trouble pretty much instantly. He has enough time to recover before a power 1 ever gets to him
Silas has no methods of killing a woken player. All their attacks will be parried. 1 hit to a weapon Silas dies since physical attacks aren’t defended by magic. The song protects you from both
You can’t be mixing gameplay with lore here, a sword is going to be dealing a rough 35 (I think it can get a bit higher than that, but whatevs!) damage to the current 1666. Unless you think that even in the Deep lore, parrying apparently completely negates any and all damage.
Oh let’s do pure gameplay okay. So Silas dmg is gutted due to deep’s PvP scaling. All their mobility drains stamina and all their attacks are parried, perfect fudged, or vented. The woken after 1 hit will combo Silas infinitely as Silas has no tools for escaping combos like venting.
Also parrying does in lore btw. As you coat your weapon or arms in ether to fully protect you.
I once had a random marine end up on my ship as i sailed to the dark sea
50 dmg per musket shot in the bank and regeneration was just instant lol
if we go by gameplay, deepoken don’t really got much on Silas, also +333 more hp and some regeneration if we give em the max dragon blood ritual
For what reason are we forcing him under Deepwoken restrictions if the AO player himself doesn’t suffer from any pvp scaling debuff of any sort when engaging in Player to Player combat.
As i’ve said, the deepwoken player cannot catch up to the AO player before they just simply recover stamina and continue the run, additionally , the AO player can air stall as much as he wants. T-Jumping and casting spells in the air and them promptly reflexing to get away. Technically this matchup is against Silas, who is a super savant, granting him even more mobility techniques and moves. We should probably avoid equipment bonuses for the sake of our sanity , but i should mention tier V meals which can make stamina recovery even faster.
Assuming that we will be hit after what i’ve mentioned
Also source…
Also AO has parrying too….parrying the hypothetical “1 hit” that the deepwoken can land to avoid stun.
We have a oath ability that tp you to your opponent
Lightning magic has an instantaneous reflex to react to that, fortunately or unfortunately.
Read the topic title pls
Then just wait for the ao character to use their dodge reflex. Also deepwoken has ironsing pulls/jailer
Deep woken also gets anti running talents
Thats a discussion about if we throw a naked silas into a harsh and cruel world of suffering where he will die in 1 year max.
Here, we are currently discussing if a power 1 deepwoken player can beat a theoretical “Silas” player, in a hypothetical space where deepwoken and ao have been ported to one game with the game’s rules not applying to eachother for some reason
We have inf range mantras funnily enough
Metal fakeout and the chain could lowk do something here, it will put him in a combo unless the Silas player can parry in time to negate stun.
Silas isn’t the player. They are a particlur build.
Vextex quote
Silas Is the cannon name for the player
Silas still has no methods to deal with parrying of deepwoken.
Game wise yes