im quite fond of it because it keeps me guessing. Im sure others do this cause I do, but i usually aim a projectile on the ground beneath the opponent a during their fall so when they land they get hit by it. Reflexes made it so I have to predict whether they fall straight where I’m aiming or reflex away from the landing spot and I think thats pretty cool.
ionno if it was like this for others but i found trying to hop around the jaws spires for coppershrooms cancer before dodge reflex. (I didnt know orthys had tons of those at the time)
no.
balance ≉ fun
nah same lol, i farm coppershroom back then thí way too
I do not come to ao for “””””balance”””” I do not come to ao for “””””””predictable moves”””””” when I come into Elysium running metal conjurer I intend to have the stupidest fucking fight of my life involving the wackiest most over the top moves that our lord and savior Vetex could possibly imagine. The idea that we need to lower the amount of absurdity is stupid, we need buffs, buffs and more buffs. People dodging out of attacks too fast? Global attack speed increase. Attacks deal too much damage? Revert the defense nerf. If ao continues down the path it’s on with balancing we’ll reach level 600 a rotting corpse of what we are now.
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If ao doesn’t resemble a full speed yomih match by chimera sea we riot
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The more grounded combat is, the more comparable the game is to deepwoken. I don’t like playing deepwoken, so let’s not get grounded any time soon.
TRUE, though watching some of those super skilled savant players pvp already make it seem like a yomi hustle match which is gonna be even more insane in full release with 4 way savant (8 slots to manage 
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Woe be upon thee, curse of pilles (you now have exactly the same effective stats as you did at 125) glory to the balance team 
Separate version of AO where stat fall-off doesn’t exist
Don’t tempt me, a man glimpsing perfection has no path but to go mad trying to achieve it
Man will always desire what they do not have
You could also become The Herald and bring forth The Glorious Evolution…
If this were my odyssey i would buff up substats to be equal in viability to power and def.
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definitely not
also add a poll smh
- dodge reflex was a mistake
- unsure / neutral
- dodge reflex is cool
- there should be 2 dodge reflexes again
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voters
honestly the problem aint dodge reflexes its the movement of everything else. T-jump is too high, grabs send you too far even crash goes a lil too far when you miss. they just need to dumb it down a bit. also while we’re talking about movement I wish we had a real sprint instead of dashing all the time
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I think a lot of factors play into this, I think pvp used to be better during release because PVE players were encouraged to learn pvp mostly because of the deckhands back in the day
PVP started feeling worse somewhere after the deckhand system was changed (add potions update here too). This is because a huge population of players who would fill the gap between pure PVE and PVP suddenly just vanished making overworld PVP feel garbage because you’d always go against “Deepwoken Players”
So I wouldn’t exactly blame dodge reflexes as an issue, If you think about it you’d remember that people air stalled even worse on release with FS users literally making helicopter builds.
I’d say in pursuing balance and sticking to numbers, people have really forgotten random factors that actually influence how the game felt back then and now.
I think it’s laughable that people are questioning dodge reflex and T jumps as for why PVP feels stale.
I think it’s better to just shift blame onto the change of the game from PVP to PVE, Vetex decided to make the game PVP oriented at the start to make sure he earns enough off the game. Now he’s swapping to PVE and that’s it.
Personally I’d suggest just giving up on AO has a PVP game and look else where, Vetex is likely not gonna consider PVP for a huge time and will instead try to Train update AO after full release.
I doubt he’s gonna make Elysium free (EA ass move for making us pay for time).
Or if your crazy enough then consider developing a game with AO’s combat system as an inspiration.
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