Is warren the only living grand fire curse user?

Vetex’s message really only refers to curses in general. It would be assumed that grand fire curses would have much more of an impact on a user’s psyche especially since the aspects of the grand fire curses focus on being destructive and spreading. Making it very likely that a grand fire user goes insane.

You can literally see Warren using the magic, he’d be insane if he used it



Really gotta spell shit out to some people

It was literally a reply to that image, what do you not get?

We never see him use a magic circle what are u saying?

warren and rupin might have just had different pasts
think about how trigno’s magma curse should have the same tendency but he isnt insane

He might be able to, but there’re definitely constraints for why he wouldn’t such as political reasons (not wanting the Azura kingdom to go to war with the potential multitude of kingdoms attached to the order) and just generally not having much of a stake in the order other than what happened with beringer

I think the order have people nearly as powerful as him on their side

there can be more to fire than hot headedness

The Inferno Curse is the second strongest Grand Fire Curse, tied with Darkflame. Consider Morock’s strength with the Promethean Flame Curse, being an having defeated almost the entirety of the Arcane Government’s strongest fleet and nearly killing Valencia herself, only being defeated due to his own blunder.

Torren may no longer be canon but the strength of the Darkflame curse certainly is. Having a Grand Fire Curse alone is usually enough to make you one of the Eleven Unknowns. The Order doesn’t have a centralized attacking force. They have their Barons and High Lords, who Ren could quite simply pick off one by one if he actually had the Inferno Curse.

The reason is simply their secrecy. Most kingdoms with powerful curse wielders likely don’t know of their existence, or are in on it themselves.

Can’t be bothered to go digging forever to find this so if I’m off then I’m off, as far as I was aware the entire purpose of the creation of the Grand Fire Curses was to defeat Arthur and this drive affected every user of the Curses.

Both parties were simply biding their time. A clash was inevitable. Morock wasn’t an idiot, even with the strength of a Grand Fire Curse I’m sure a Supercurse user would still pose a serious threat, in addition to Poseidon, Arsen, and any other Curse users in the One-Shot Pirates.

I’m not even sure what this proves. Maybe ‘insane’ is a bit harsh, but if a mere Fire Curse could influence Rupin to the point of utter and absolute insanity due to his past, the god-like power of the Inferno Curse would probably be a bit more harsh, no? And it would certainly affect his personality, lol.

he also doesnt know any more about the order than we do
he went with us to the myriad to gather information

The blue fire surrounding him:

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Trigno is aggressive and impatient wdym

a curse can also do that

I’m saying he’d be insane if he used the curse and that he used the magic

A curse is also magic

he’s also a pirate while warren is a political figure, could just be their personality and not the curse influencing them

Vet literally says curses shape your personality, I doubt warren would be the opposite of aggressive and impatient if he had the curse

Even if they are pirates, mere Elemental Curses can clearly affect the user’s personality in a way that is almost characteristic of the curse they possess.

If you’re actually gunna sit here and tell me that the man possessing the god-like power of the Inferno Curse, capable of producing the hottest flames in the game’s universe, is a calm, orderly, level-headed dude then you gotta be tweaking

fire doesn’t always have to be chaotic

Doesn’t mean he’s the 2nd strongest person.

No, nothing about torren was ever canon so we don’t know, unless you can show me something were vetex states darkflames power. I’m not saying grand fire curses aren’t powerful. They are the most powerful things on the planet (debatable with a super curse) but the true power lies within the curses user.

We don’t know this yet.

We don’t know how powerful some of these high lord’s will be

Azura knew about it

Key word due to his past