Ah yeah you’re correct, negative synergies discourage teamwork too. Let me make an edit to the post…
Also eventually when three magics come out you can just have a synergy with your first two and have your third be whatever you want. Negative synergies should also exist cuz they make sense and by the time we get all three of our magics or even all 5 we could probably clear every status effect in the game besides 2.
They discourage teamwork that is just spammy of whatever magic you want. If you have a certain magic that works with someone else’s you need to use that magic. status effect that hold you in place are good examples of this because if it dosn’t break you out of the stun it shouldn’t do a lot of damage
I don’t think you know what you’re saying
you ever fought three people before? alone mind you
Yes, I stood no chance cause I was one and they were three.
ok thats just kinda tuff cuz when I did I stood a chance. I stood even more of a chance cuz not all of their magics worked well together. Other wise I would have died in like a barrage from all of them.
Skill issue for them then. 3 people obviously dominate one, if they lose a 3v1 they’re just bad
But what does this have to do with negative synergies
Im saying that it discourages jumping people because you have numbers. You also have to have magics that work together or just be good enough to work around it. Im a part of a group in my clan and I have to work with a magma user that reduces my magic size if im even near him. We still are a team and I have ways to still work around this.
Im just saying it makes you think harder about how you fight.
Also this is a big if but this is probably what kind of rare weapons we can find from bosses and chests.
Weapons that share the essence of a magic allowing you to cause a magic effect with a weapon. You have a synergy with poison but don’t have poison magic. Well use your poison daggers first and then hit them
OK Let’s look at this from another example
You engage in a 3v3, your enemy has ice, water and wind
Already the enemy is metamancing and you’re at a disadvantage, but you’re better than them so you have the skill advantage!
Only that, you and your friends don’t metamance, you’re all literally water, fire and metal. You and your friends are at a bigger disadvantage due to negative synergies, and regardless of skill you get beat cause you didn’t decide to metamance the game.
Also, status effects can’t be applied 5 seconds after being cleared, so that freeze spam you talked about isn’t actually true
I kinda run into this all the time. just cause 3 1v1s by splitting up or just damage rush them. Yeah you do less dmg but your still doing 1.5 times the damage they could be doing back to you. make the wind and the water user attack one person and make sure the fire guy dosnt attack the same person.
If you dont have synergies don’t rely on them.
Okay let’s use your logic. Negative synergies damage teamwork and discourages variety, but on the plus side you get a minor advantage when getting ganked!..
Unless you get jumped by metamancers. Oh. Well. Negative synergies continue to damage the game and getting ganked is still barely “solved” by them.
Im done here, you can go back and check my older points if you have anything to say cause I’m not gonna start repeating myself now.
Basically what I was trying to say but also again. Once third magics come out removing status effects is gonna be done by everyone. Three magics could even allow you to remove almost every status in the game. Also If your good at not getting hit within a certain amount of time then synergies wont matter.
Glad to see this is not an unpopular opinion. I have had discussions about this and people have seemed to agree so it’s nice that the broader community agrees as well.
Negative synergies serve almost entirely 1 purpose with 1 niche secondary purpose, the first beaing realism and the second being to prevent people from going a certain combo. I feel like the second reason should just be ignored entirely, screw that, it helps nobody and I am sure that nobody is even deluded into thinking that it would help them in any way shape or form. I just don’t think anybody would logically come to the conclusion that it somehow helps them, I think everyone unuversally understands that it’s limiting.
In regards to realism, realism must ALWAYS be weighed with other game factors. There is never a case where it shouldn’t be and never a broad case where it isn’t. So wth that being said, we should take a look at the pros and cons to see if this is worth being a factor.
Just to clear things up: Clearing statuses should 100% stay, I’m just talking about dealing less damage to targets with statuses. I’m not talking about sea interactions either.
Pros of Negative Synergies
- Realistic
- Disincentivizes anti-interaction loadouts if you consider them a bad thing
Cons of Negative Synergies
- Unenjoyable feature
- If somebody picks a magic with a negative synergy and is unaware they’re pretty much screwed, not everyone reads Meta’s doc or the Trello
- Limits magic combo diversity
- Better allows for anti-interaction loadouts if you consider them a good thing
- Limits aesthetic choices
Personally I think these two pros are not enough to defend against the amount of cons this presents. At the most, negative interactions from other sources suh as rain or other players can stay, but my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd magic should not hinder each other’s damage. Clearing each other is fine though.
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Negative Synergies is a case where some would argue for realism, while others would argue from a gameplay perspective.
Or you just attack different people…
Personally, I feel like synergies and clashing are not use too well, but make an okay fighting system more unique. However, you bring up a good point where people are locked into certain magics to stay relavent.
just ignore the meta 
if you manage to beat your opponent’s ass while they have the upper hand in synergies, doesnt that show that youre way more skilled? actually come to think of it, synergies isnt everything when it comes to pvp
Its called Skill Issue, every magic is good, you just need to know how to use it properly and learn how to pvp