We can still complain so much that vetex is forced to intervene and finally rein in his dogshit balance team
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What if I told you that Vetex himself originally reported this as a bug and that it is not primarily the balance teamās fault that it has been brought back into attention?
Would make zero sense to fire the balance team for trying to get bugs fixed.
(Also if this thread devolves into how the other thread did into just calling the balance team or Vetex bad with no constructive discourse, Iām gonna close it)
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You closed it because everyone hated on you for making a change the players disliked, just remove waterbreathing gems from the game, theyre just going to be useless compared to making a waterbreathing 5 potion which is way easier and less resource intensive than making a full waterbreathing and swim speed setā¦unless of course you removed permanent effects FROM ALL potions, but you wont do that right? Potions get a free pass on being utterly annoying.
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bro at this point just leave it, mods have spoken
This is all vetexās choice, not the balance teamās.
No this is purely on the balance team, what they could do after seeing backlash is go back to vetex and tell him players really dont like the change and maybe they should choose a diffrent way of approaching it instead of making Waterbreathing gems from being a niche useful thing for diving to something nobody will use because potions exist. Its free good PR to just let waterbreathing gems stay the way they are
I know exactly what Vetex would say if I pinged him asking to keep literally infinite air from jewels a feature just because the community doesnāt like the fix. Iām not gonna waste his time answering a question we already know the answer to.
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When I have to actually engage in the resource collection mechanics of the open world game Iām playing (it happens passively while Iām doing the thing that I need the item for anyway)
I love how you think water breathing on gems will be useless, double water breathing on top of potions means youāll hardly even need tier 4/5 because of just how long your air will last. And my guy seaweed is about the easiest item in this game to collect a ton of incredibly fast.
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Then why nerf gems? If the potions are already better nerfing the gems now just makes sure nobody will use them, also NOBODY WILL USE POTIONS EITHER, Vetex said hes adding a diving bell in the future, if it works the way everyone thing it will then you just have a free air pocket under the water that you can go back to at any time, eliminating the need for potions altogether.
The diving bellā¦ is for dark sea content dawg
As is expressly stated
When the yap is misinformed 
its like you want to grind even more. id rather just have a passive breathing bonus with a build dedicated to diving.
i cant understand this takeā¦i dont want to have to use a potion everytime i want to dive, it runs out quickly and its just an added grind. this is the reason why most people choose to get water breathing gems and be done with it
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Exactly, people love waterbreathing gems as they are now, and it makes more people get into the diving mechanic as a whole because they dont need to grind for 6 hours to get all the materials for perfect potions, especially with abbysal depths coming which should be like what 300 meters deep?
How long do yāall spend underwater?
You donāt need full water breathing to complete like any underwater content.
Itās obvious that this is a balancing factor for the increased sunken chances in abyssal structures
This change (bug fix) is almost certainly being put in place for the same reason cargo value has to go down when it becomes easier to buy and sell cargo.
Yāall were spoiled by this bug and now that itās being fixed to work as intended youāre coping wonderfully 
Yesss my glorious forumers lets keep on promoting a broken feature because its makes the game easier for me and i donāt like facing minor inconveniences like spending a few minute grinding auric seaweed (which already appears in diving spots, making it apart of the only reason you would use water breathing anyway) 
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We like to go underwater to explore as well not just to loot, i dont care if its a bug fix, a normal game dev or studio would go āOh hey this bug is loved by our players and is actually good for the game, lets make it an official feature and get good free PRā if waterbreathing gems were so good just buff potions? Even as they are rn waterbreathing gems still get beat by gems because you can stack more swim speed in place of your waterbreathing gems, theres been variety to your diving builds, now its just going to be āHey yeah just go grind these potions and swim speed gemsā
If people like waterbreathing gems as they are and they arent an issue, which they really arent, then it should just be incorporated as a game feature, this is why everyone with a brain shits on the balance team, like when they nuked thermo fist into orbit instead of finding a middle ground, they always go for extremes
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āspoiledāā¦aka made the game more convenient
bad strawman + absolutely nobody cared about this ābugā until like yesterday
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Yeah literally nobody brought it up, it was just accepted as a feature that made diving actually fun either alone or with friends to just mess around in the water, you can check bug reports theres nothing on waterbreathing gems either so yeah, if i was in charge i would integrate it into the game and just make Potions even better (which they already are to waterbreathing gems cause you can stack swimspeed in their place)
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lol ever since its inception ive never seen anybody complain about water breathing gems not even once, but suddenly a balance team member says its a bug and now thereās suddenly an anti waterbeathing coalition that says its always been an issue
swim speed on the other handā¦that was an issue and needed nerfs. water breathing is harmless
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Iām going slightly off topic here (Iāve already given my take on the waterbreathing issue a few times already), but here is just a bit of recent proof that we are aware and trying to explicitly avoid this sort of nuclear balancing now, especially since we can get number changes tested early now.
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