Powderfist should get a serprate status from charred

It is unrealistic to hide.

Not only can you not hide effectively in any PvP arenas, you can’t hide in PvE areas either, as the NPCs can find you rather quickly.

It’s factually worse to spend time changing weapons/relics, as you are sacrificing oh so much damage and you have a way higher chance of getting hit.

It. Is. Unrealistic.

This topic is becoming derailed.

Anyway at least in the future I hope the fighting style upgrades or something will aleast do something like actually making fs unique.

It isn’t getting derailed, it is you who can’t accept something is unrealisitic.

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They. Are. Unique.
I’ve stated it multiple times at this point.

It is getting derailed. We went from why powderfist should get a new status to us it realistic to change armour and stuff mid combat.

Quite literally the only thing serprating every from of stat related combat is the moves they have and maybe a minor special mechinc. And I don’t doubt we will at some point get practical copys of fs but as magic or but as wep.

You derailed it towards changing armor/accessories/weapons/relics mid-combat.

No, no it isn’t, as I STATED BEFORE.

“Be it the knockback from Boxing, Cannon Fist’s… cannon(ball), Sailor’s sea water, Thermo’s heat bar, Powder’s delayed explosion, Vanishing’s invisibility & crits(, et cetera)” - From this comment’s footnote:

and the person is unable to just, go around it?

or just use cannon/big aoe to still hit you anyway during the multiple seconds it takes to swap out gear

Boxings knockback - wind, gravity

Powderfist secondary boom - any future explosion related lost magics

The bar related stuff will probably also given to relics or wep later on.

As we get later on in the future of AO we will have stuff like powderfist secondary explosion be no longer unique.

You are quite literally saying shit for the sake of saying shit at this point.

There will NOT be any bars given to relics or weapons, they are not built in that manner.

There will NOT be a copy of Powderfist in magic form, it additionally wouldn’t even make sense! Powderfist is “good” at its job because you get up and personal, dealing the initial blow and following up with the explosion afterwards, with magic you have to aim, be lucky to hit and just pray to god they don’t press the dash button.

Stop making up downright lies to stir up shit, please.

He had a close argument that he failed to use. The close magic equivalent is ancient lightning. They both strike multiple times. The difference is ancient lightning will likely be speed oriented and likely keep the paralyzed effect. Powder fist is size based and does charred. It’s like plasma and fire being similar but having different purposes ie speed vs size

ancient lightning is not really the best example as it was confirmed by tech to likely be chaining between enemies instead, the striking multiple times part might just be any type of dark sea lightning

but gravity and arcturus (if u wanna count customs) do have delayed shockwaves on certain spells similar to powder

Customs do not count as they’re typically using stuff from other things to make things

Gravity gimick is moving people around which is more boxing. Though boxing is rather weird as it’s more a defensive style than anything. Natural blocking power, low dmg, knock back to people away, and speed to let you control where you wanna be better.

Also until we get the final version of usable ancient lightning. Mechanically all we got is the triple strike. Tech also the person who said neverio has a curse inheritance which is rather impossible

then you could say gravity takes gimmicks from both boxing and powder fist

Not really. The closest is wind magic which, it’s an evolution from.

It would be like comparing iron leg and glass because they both bleed.

valid point, unrelated but it reminds of me how somebody else here was comparing powderfist to explosion magic because they both inflict charred, and then comparing that to lost magic gimmicks… somehow

but also then why are we comparing powder fist to ancient lightning (considering its Dark Sea gimmick) just because they both have delayed explosions, wouldn’t it be like comparing IL and glass since they both inflict the same status? it’s both comparing a FS and a magic with a shared feature. IL would be on the heavier/slower but slightly more damaging side and glass would be lighter/faster

Oh that’s the maker of this very topic lol

Because it’s the closest to comparing powder fist but even then I ddon’t think it’s a GOOD one. Just the best. His idea has no real merit