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oh.

i mean he still defeated prometheus
im pretty sure cursebeard could’ve ended prometheus if he wanted to

Wotan VS Lumber D. Jack

Maybe they would’ve gotten body slammed in 3 shots instead of 1 if they weren’t

Wdym? It’s confirmed that Mist Walker and Kingslayer are both king Cross. A ghost calls uses both former titles, and Azarel mentions Kingslayer fighting Freedrock, where Cross killed Freedrock who was resurrected by Lazarus curse given to him

Vetex stated Julian has far more attack power than calvus

The only thing calvus is better in is versatility probably (and maybe speed cuz glass is slow)

To be fair, calvus used a funny move to dash up to neviro and one shot him, had him knocked out for a long ass time. He didn’t do it to the player (cause he wanted to capture, not kill them probably?) so there’s no way to know how effective it would have been

I think Neviro is just a weak lil baby.
Think about how you’d fare against King Calvus at about level 25, same as Neviro would do.
Calvus had ways to knock you out without killing you, you were just too tough for him.

Idk bro I think getting stabbed at light speed might do a little bit of damage

Not for a super duper highly-trained fighter with demigod potential.

He does it to the player. It’s that grab move he does, usually right after he does that slam. I think it’s called impaling strike or something when you get the triasta.

Didn’t know he had a grab move ngl…

Lore wise the player probably wouldn’t survive that either tbh, there’s nothing stopping us from dying to regular weapon damage

It’s pretty easy to dodge, so long as you aren’t just standing absolutely still a couple feet in front of him it’s probably not gonna hit.

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Vetex has also confirmed that Torren is a completely different character to King Cross. King Cross is at most the AU Timeline’s counterpart of Torren, but they do NOT share feats.

The Idea of Torren destroying Athens is a straight up lie from the wiki lol. Torren in AA had destroyed Ian’s Cross, a city that doesn’t exist inlore anymore, and at the point of King Cross’ reveal had not existed for several months. Vetex has never stated that King Cross destroyed Athens, let alone had a connection to Athens.

But I thought he converted Ian’s into Athens.

Ian’s Cross and Athens are nothing alike except for them both being where Prometheus begins his spreading of magic

Shocker

Well, you may not have checked recently, but it’s in a section of potentially non-canon elements.
I’m fairly certain that Vetex directly stated that Athens was a change in name and geographical location only, though I don’t doubt that a lot else has changed anyway.

Wonder how much misinfo about torren is from the ar discord