what
min maxing, poorly balancing the min maxing, has an inflation effect and you know the rest
pvp isn’t like this
fights drag on to the longest it’s ever been in world pvp, and arena pvp isn’t “30 - 45 seconds”
lightning conjurer was never meta lmao
sure there were some patches where it was really good, but not “meta”
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In v1.15, Lightning magic had stats and synergies so overpowered it became a running joke it was a lost magic
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Why do I have a feeling that lightning is why synergies got nerfed across the board
I realised that despite my snarky comment of “pressing G” which I made a couple hours ago being completely reasonable, original poster of this thread doesn’t have a proper grasp of lightning magic - and more importantly - any grasp on the meta.
It disdains me whenever I see people who of which I assume to be people who PvE a lot more than PvP try give a take on PvP - because they always end up dumbfounding me.
Who am I to speak on this though? Hello! I am 64arc, other than glazing my own Arcane Odyssey clan 24/7 on this site, I actually use 5 Lightning Files on my main account - and a wide variety of slots using lightning magic, and hence I feel as if I am one of the most qualified to speak on it.
I mentioned that I’ve ran a lot of slots using Lightning Magic, both in the present day and on now deleted slots - so for a bit of a giggle, I’m going to list my resume of lightning slots I’ve spent time PvP’ing on.
My Lightning Slots
Lightning/Wood Mage
Lightning/Water Mage
Lightning/Magma Mage
Lightning/Crystal Mage
Lightning/Sand Mage
Lightning/Glass Mage
Lightning Conjurer
Lightning Sailor Fist
Lightning Boxing
Lightning Basic Combat
Lightning Iron Leg
Lightning Thermo
Lightning Cannon Fist
Lightning/Wood Boxing Savant
Lightning/Ice Sailor Savant
Lightning/Glass Sailor Savant
Lightning/Water Boxing Savant
Lightning Paladin
Lightning Crystal Paladin (Pre-Mistral)
Lightning Water Paladin (Pre-Mistral)
It doesn’t, it’s a sign that maybe you’re being heavily statchecked by your opponent, or you lack skill (I don’t want to assume the worst out of you - but I am inclined to).
I don’t think it has ever been about this - on release spamming pulsar was the way to go if you wanted to engage half your brain for double the results, followed by Crystal Iron Leg, which you rightfully mentioned. These are what the game used to be, in fact, these are some of the earliest metas inside of the game, so I have absolutely no idea what you’re trying to get at by saying that PvP in this game has been about comboing and strategy.
Do I want the PvP in this game to be more centered around thinking? Fuck yes, I want the same results you do, but you’ve got to realise that it has never been like that - and that it is not all too easy for all of this balancing to take place simultaneously.
Yes, lightning is a high performing magic, and consistently has been such, but lightning conjurer (the build I happen to main) does not even get close to touching the meta, and conjurer itself has always been rather well-rounded, and not too overpowered or underpowered compared to other builds.
As @StockSounds rightfully said, lightning conjurer was everywhere due to it’s popularity, take me for example, I’ve ran lightning magic since AA, when I was only 9 years old, because I thought it looked cool, it’s evident that a lot of other kids are going to think exactly like I did, hence why lightning is consistently one of the most popular magics to date.
Is lightning conjurer still solid though? Absolutely, it’s definitely way above average for a conjurer, high speed, high damage, low size, a stun synergy and a rewarding bleed synergy make it very well rounded, but I wouldn’t say it’s entered the meta.
Next time give a chat about Lightning/Water mage, not Lightning Conjurer, and you’re welcome for me clearing your muddled up mind. 
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respectfully what the fuck
all my spotify playlists are different words for lightning
my phone background & pc wallpaper are pictures of lightning
the majority of my camera roll is videos ive taken of lightning during storms
my username is 64arc
in every game i play if theres something lightning related i aspire to have it
its an addiction and i cant stop it god bless vetexgames 
OH MY GOD I FORGOT TO INCLUDE MY LIGHTNING PALADIN AND ALL MY PRE-MISTRAL PALADINS WAIT
and yet your clan is “neptune” rather than “jupiter”
how curious
jupiter does exist it’s a solo clan i have with like 15k infamy
i named neptune what it is soley because i made the first logo for it before the name came about - and i put a trident in it
1.14 reflexes, ruined pvp, they are more manageable now but still annoying and feels unfair at times (includes when i also benefit from them) and lack of size/agil nerf while lack of buffs to stuff that req skill
Yoo I think vetex will cook ways to like use moves to tether people from moving to far from each other or domain expansion like moves. Idk anything that counters agility instead of removing it
Oh, thats easy, just have more agility than the other person
I’mma be real 70% of ao players were never strategic. A lot of people just like goofing around tbh and that’s fine.
Also, name ur “strategic” ways of playing because a lot of people complain on forums but aren’t explicit with their examples for arguments.
Creativity of a one legged wingless pigeon
Its quite simple, I have no idea how you havent come to such an obvious conclusion. smh
an accurate potrayal of that would be
you sure about that? I’ve seen like
at least 10 fights that lasted over an hour(endless chase of back and forth across Sameria)
last time i checked grounded pvp was terrible since your skills kept hitting the tall grass infront of you instead of the opponent
what kind of pvp civilization do you live in
im not pvper, and i frequently get ganked
EVEN I LAST MORE THAN 30-45 SECONDS
you probably wouldnt even survive 45 seconds in bed (okay thats actually mean im sorry)
idk about you, but max size mages, max attack speed warlocks and worst of all: grab moves stunning you in the ground doesnt sound like strategy to me
bruh wdym i consider myself lucky if theres a savant in any server i play
and i MAIN savant