He made 0 fucking sense and just seemed like tech’s overpowered oc
Nobody cares about torren
theos level progidy that got the 2nd strongest curse, seems normal he a bit broken
apparently tech made him the one to kill prometheus, not even with the “strongest” grand fire curse nor under special circumstances like cursebeard and he could “infinitely loop-kill freedrock” which again makes absolutely 0 fucking sense considering freedrock gets a fuck ton stronger every time, they apparently needed every fucking god and unknown to seal this bitch away
bros literally just an edgy overpowered oc
bro even got the darkflame curse 
thank GOD that bros not cannon that shit is abysmal
If it hasn’t been retconned yet, the durandal was originally a holy weapon. I think Freedrock lost it and it eventually just became cursed.
Freedy wth
The durandal was always cursed since it is French
I don’t want to have any part in this discussion; I’d rather be caught dead than “powerscaling” but here I am anyways. The people saying “it’s not double, it’s just along the golden ratio” should fail to convince almost anyone that it matters at all.
Any number over 1 raised to a power that’s high enough will be huge. Going from 2 to 1.61 means going from one unfathomable multiple (~10175) to another, “smaller” unfathomable multiple (~10120). Sure, one is bigger, but both are too big to be contextualized by something relatable. They are both much larger than the length of two football fields (in feet, meters, or Planck length if you want) and the approximate number of atoms in the observable universe, so it doesn’t even matter that much.
If his power grew by 1%, he’d have a power multiplier of ~330, which would still be a lot given any respectable starting point.
All numbers associated with his power are complete asspulls that weren’t thought through at all (his death count included). It’s really not doing it any justice to desribe it by numbers. That will just make completely avoidable plot holes, or at the very least really unlikely coincidence that are hardly believable.
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So basically, even if it did go off the golden ratio, Freedrock would still be story breakingly powerful.
Interesting.
To comment on the bringing up the golden ratio part at the start, i just brought it up because thats what Tech says.
Since when did “the power scaling is along the golden ratio” mean “his power is multiplied by the golden ratio every revive”
Would make far more sense if he just got a corresponding power increase based on the golden spiral or digit of the golden ratio that would be represented by his revive.
nah because it’s literally never implied it’s an exponential increase nor is it ever implied what an initial increase would even be
I could say x character gets stronger by the golden ratio and after a million deaths he still doesn’t have a power increase of 1.62 because that would be above his hypothetical “following the golden ratio” of power along digits of ~
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I’m not putting a million digits but you get the point ( each additional digit is a power increase despite how minute)
There is no actual power you can derive from a statement like that because it’s left intentionally vague and is only supposed to show he’s strong, not have people try to do math based on unreasonable assumptions
to put this “nerfed” version into persespective thats still FAR more than the amount of atoms that are estimated to exist in the observable universe
So if we go off of the golden ratio alone, how powerful would the boost be per death?
He’s dead so yes
The issue is “going off the golden ratio” isn’t a mathematical equation, it’s just flavor text, there’s not really a reasonable equation you can derive.
It could be ~1.618x power increase total accounting for every death
It could be 3.01*10^29 (approximation of 583rd number on the golden spiral)
^ let’s just pick this one out for an example even though it’s still likely unreasonable
Assuming he started with the equivalent attacking ability of 1kg of tnt(still highballing, this would still destroy a car) then he would still only be able to blow up large planets
I say still but it is clear that Freedrock can’t actually blow up large planets or else Torren and Durza would seem extremely weak comparatively when they were supposed to be top tiers albeit Torren is no longer canon.
If we estimate he’s just a strong human level at the start and use the golden spiral approximation then rn he’d only be able to destroy continents with ease and if we say he’s significantly stronger than a human can reasonably achieve at the start since it’s a magical world, he’d be strong enough to destroy the moon
Although these seem strong for AO characters, Goku is at a universal level and Saitama is busting galaxies
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