A question about elemental curses

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idk, its probably just a property of the curse

I wonder if gods were able to do so. Well, thx for some clarifications.

yes they were able to create and manipulate their element

simple. having an elemental curse doesnt make you explode if you fall in seawater, thats just a headcanon from AR. not canon to AO or AA

What ever made you think so?

i found it

im pretty sure he didn’t use the curse to make the wood, he just used it to shape it into boats

that could also just be the acid dispersing now that its source was gone, especially if the acid was just magic energy that could very easily diffuse into the magic energy already within the ocean

the only reason it would have remained in the area for an extended period of time is because Shura was constantly supplying it during that time

That’s why you mint currency that doesn’t follow the gold standard

Only discovery we made here is that trying to understand Vetex’s lore is like trying to make a puzzle picture when there are parts of 5 other puzzles and half of the pieces you actually need are misding
It’s a complete mess, every 5th thing doesn’t add up and a ton of parts are clashing with each other

thats nonsensical, death of author fallacy

up until now ive only seen it be stated in the AR lore

Whats wrong here?

Alright, to begin:

1: It is nonsensical that the remnant energy from Durza’s attack is enough to not only injure a curse user, but completely destroy them. This is simply illogical as an elemental curse user would by default already be incredibly powerful, then if they train and get stronger, it’s even more ridiculous to think about Durza’s energy still being too much.

2: Makes no sense when a regular person can be in these polluted waters with no issue, if anything, a curse user should be more resistant to the effects of the pollution in the sea. It’s unreasonable to say that dropping into seawater just makes them explode, under no stretch of the imagination does this make sense.

3: Assuming that elemental curses cannot interact with seawater also conflicts with the fact that Wotan reinforces all his boats with his own curse, his cursed energy wood would conflict with the seawater and should explode, yet it doesn’t. This is how it should be, but vetex feels the need to say otherwise and create an overly exaggerated power system when this is just a one piece inspired magic game.

In conclusion, curse users exploding upon contact with seawater is a nonsensical rule which makes no sense logically speaking, and conflicts with the lore.

Well, Durza had the force of 3-4 curses at the time of the attack, I think, which is how many Cursebeard had, so I don’t think any amount of training can save you from that
Also, normal people only have magic energy, meaning they can use it, but they are not the energy itself, meaning that if a curse user, a manifestation of a magic’s energy, touched seawater, it would clash with whatever energy is inside, causing them to blow up
This does beg another question though, if using a magic whose energy is different from their curse, how is Cursebeard not in a state of constant pain, seeing as he has 2 external curses, but also the Ice and the Blaze curse, which are definitely not similar

Curse users are immortal, this means they have an infinite amount of time to train and become resilient to the pollution from Durza’s attack. Furthermore, this resistance should be innate in a curse user. If a normal person can swim in the ocean without any problem, this means that there is an inconsistency with the “magic energies clashing” claim, and it can be discarded. Now that this has been removed due to its illogical roots, we can now run every scenario mentioned minus the “magic energies clashing” nonsense.

1: Normal people can swim in seawater :white_check_mark:
2: Curse users can swim in seawater :white_check_mark:
3: Wotan can create usable boats out of his curse :white_check_mark:
4: Cursebeard can possess more than 1 curse :white_check_mark:

All of these are things which can be seen in the game, meaning that for all things considered, the “magic energies clashing” is nothing but utter nonsense and can be discarded from the story entirely. Up until now, to my knowledge, curses were called curses because they sentence you to live an immortal life, the curse being that you will have to see everyone else around you eventually die, unless they too become curse users. Moreover, this is not a novel concept in AO lore, there are plenty of things which grant something great like immortality but curse you with something else.

They are not completely immortal, they can still be killed.
Normal people can swim in seawater because they’re normal, meaning they’re not the magic energy. They can channel it, but that’s it. You need magic circles to channel it, whilst curse users don’t, as they in a way are the magic circles.
And I’m quite certain that the clashing is a fact. If a person with light magic and shadow curse tried to use the light magic, it would only result in extreme pain for them as the two energies are vastly different. Cursed person can only use a magic if it’s the same, or possibly similar, as their curse.
Just the way a fire attack blows up a poison one, or a lightning attack turns a sand one into glass, I believe that the curses clash the same way. What attacks you is poison or sand energy, and you’re using fire or lightning energy to defend yourself. Curse users are these attacks, so they’d clash with other attacks, or energy for that matter.

When I said immortal, I meant that they do not die to conventional means, and they also have eternal youth.
You’re ignoring everything I said. It is still illogical for this “magic energy clash” to exist, and it is contradicted by things that already exist in the story. (Cursebeard having 2 unrelated curses, Wotan having ships made out of his curse sailing in the ocean)

Correct, that is literally what we’re talking about
There is evidence in game that says curse and magic of different energies cause extreme pain to user and evidence that says curse users who touch seawater imminently blow up
Yet we have 2 curses that should clash in the same body and parts of curse users that are in the water all the time
That is the issue

“evidence that says” can be discarded unless it is shown, it is directly contradicted as you just admitted, so the idea of energies clashing can be discarded.