ur problem is that swimming gems are a bad thing for pvp, my argument is that its over blown
Ok then no nerf at all would be best, no? And id be fine with that. In fact id prefer that but well knowing both the bteam and vetex that wont be the case. But if we gotta take one or the other then the first option is easily the better option
Counter point: swimming takes up stamina
Iāve gotta disagree.
Brigs are still a mobile spawnpoint, faster than even the most possible swimspeed, and a platform to get your stamina back (if you had the maximum swim speed you couldnāt breathe underwater)
For me they just let me explore diving spots really really fast while also escape from unwanted combat.
My main problem with the initial swim speed is that it was basically outclassed every other gem effect and needed to be balanced because of how overtuned it was. Sure it was fun to use, but relative to other gem effects it wasnāt fair.
Easy to bypass, i was one of the first people to document (maybe even 1 of the first to get a swim speed set) and i used it to swim to literally any place in the bronze sea. Also to swim back from the dark sea (i1) to the bronze sea whenever my brig got sunk
No they literally were useless 80% of the time. A mobile spawnpoint wasnt necessary when you literally outsped 95% of the playerbase and 100% of npcs. The speed diff was only like 5 ship speed, which is barely noticeable. Getting your stamina back was barely an issue since the bronze sea has plenty of islands to take a short break at.
For diving spots they were balanced, i agree with that, but for anything else they were straight up busted
oh and what divanochi mentioned too, but thats only a minor argument imo cuz swim speed itself was already gamebreaking. Comparing it to other gem effects would be meaningless because it was so goddamn busted
my topic is that this community would rather that a few people wouldnt be able to run rather than to have qol, even if swimming gems didnt get nerf at all, my point still stands
I mean honestly most gem effects areā¦ completely useless!
like cmon in what situation is climbing going to help you lol.
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This isnt even qol tho, i bet it would still result in a net nerf to swim speed for just regular diving/pve. And for pvp you wouldnt be able to avoid pvp as easily since the speed diff between you and your enemy isnt nearly as big
I have a max climbing speed for fun tho and its pretty nice for tall dark sea islands and just a fun set in general, but ye i agree that it isnt very useful. Those tall islands usually arent worth looting anyways and thats their only useful niche. And your other point is true too. Nobody cares about attack destruction or knockback besides just funny gem sets with max %s
isnāt knockback literally only good on wind magic?
attack destruction is mostly just useful on poison/ash, and I will admit the impact is big.
Havent seen anyone use it for pvp or pve, but a max knockback set on a wind mage is fun to just mess around with
It is? Honestly didnt know that but i still doubt id ever invest in it
It ruins NPCās days.
(this is like 100 size + 100% attack destruction)
Oh my fucking god theyāre nerfing my build even more fuck this shit
Lasted a whole 3 days before agility removal was announced and now swim speed is getting an undeserved nerf very cool Iām glad grinding is worthwhile in this game
shouldve done 50 50 so they cant implement both
I have a friend who legit never touches this game except to goof around on his swim speed build and I can confirm heās probably quitting the game for good after this
Also, even with a full set of swim speed musgravites in the current game, I barely have enough stamina for abyssal spots. I hate this change for how hard it screws over PvE.
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Just force the pvpers to become better at chasing people instead of catering to them 
This makes the learning curve to ao pvp slightly easier, which I donāt want
I will castrate 241 members of the community
First they wanna take away my gills, then me fins too?
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Pvers punished for pvpers being bad at hunting and letting their targets get away
Many such cases
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