Arcane Odyessy but with World of Magic game design (Long Post)

DISCLAIMBER
Whatever I’m going to say next, is just a fun thought I had when bored, it’s just a fan concept of “What If”.
Yes, this whole post and thing that will be mentioned below do look distantly similar to upcoming Kingdom/Town alignment, I’m just taking that to a new level

World of Magic was a fun game while it lasted, sure, it wouldn’t work due to how it was made (story and overall game design), but it became what we now know as Arcane Odyssey.
But what we did lost with transition from WOM to AO are roleplay branch of the community. Don’t get me wrong, they still exist, but not in the amounts that existed in WOM ages. But why’s that?

Where are RP players?

RP or roleplay, currently comes in forms of OC’s (Original Characters), simply speaking our files. We can customize our file’s appearance, name, magic, class and etc. But if you think about it, in WOM we had less customization, specifically in vanity, hair and something that did not exist before – Classes. Yet…Somehow…there were subjectively speaking, MORE role players than there’s now in AO. So, why’s that?
Main reason, from my point of view, is that WOM was RPG game, as Vetex stated, no story was planned for WOM, it was just you getting stronger and playing in open world with different cultural events and etc. While AO is linear story game, where we are no one from nowhere and have to fight purple guys.

Can there be a roleplay in AO?

Anywhere with any degree customization RP can exist, its just that comparing to WOM, AO player base have much less RPers then before. Anyone who played WOM can easily remember the “hero” role players, where they would attack any negative-reputation player in “sake of judgment”.
In AO, I personally, saw roleplay only during fishing sessions or in specialized servers / forum roleplay writing category.

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But recently I got an interesting idea…Imagine AO, but with WOM game design.

Arcane Odyssey but with World of Magic game design.

Before diving in, lets clarify some things first. What is “World of Magic game design”, by WOM game design I mean following:
No linear storyline;
Each character having their own Culture (Kingdom in AO case)
Fully randomized quests.
From now on I will refer to “Arcane Odyssey but with World of Magic game design” as just “Warring Seas”, It will be a kind of name of that “game”.
Now that we cleared it up, lets dive in…

How will it work?

1. Cultures and Names

While in WOM we were RANDOMLY given 2nd name based on our culture which was also randomly chosen for us, in “Warring Seas” we will be able to choose our own Kingdom that we want to spawn in, our hometown, and surname based on the culture/town.
Let’s say I’m creating a new file – Blondie guy with water magic. I have a choice between 2 currently added Kingdoms – Ravenna or Sameria. I choose Ravenna, then, I can choose between my hometowns – Frostmill Town, Monoah Village, Rasna, Rubica, Tiberia. Let’s pick capital town of Ravenna – Rubica. And so, I see following.

You awaken in your hometown, the capital of Ravenna Realm – Rubica. You are young, and have recently discovered that you can use magic…

Cool, now we have our Adrian Bronze, level 1 blondie with water magic, basic combat and simple dagger. What do we do now?

2. We all love Quests.

Here starts the good old and by some hated mechanic of quests. We have a Rubica at our hands, we can go travel to Rasna or Tiberia, but not to other islands because we don’t have sailboat or even rowboat. What do we do? Quests of course!
We run around the town or island and complete randomly spawning quests of NPCs, whether they are dynamic or not, and just like in Kingdom Alignment trello card, we can either be a hero or a villain.
Complete quests, help people with simple fetching quests or even some bandit cleaning – get some pocket money and get fame or local hero.
Steal from private storages, fight positive NPCs outside the town walls – get money and become criminal, and don’t get caught by stationary guards.

Okay now, we got some basic equipment – armor, better weapons, sailboat, invested some of our stats into what we need (no locks), and we are ready to gets sail. But before we do, lets stay over Rubica to talk about…

3. Joinable factions.

Just like in current AO, where we can join AS or GN, in our “Warring Seas” we will be able to:
Join army of your own kingdom (e.g. Bronze Legion);
Join different kingdom (If you have high reputation of that certain kingdom);
Join bandit gangs (Similar to those WOM bandit groups)
Join Clans, GN, AS.

Joining an army would be very similar to current GN or AS system. Whenever you join army your fame stays, but you also get a different ‘clan bar’, and while doing special Army tasks (which give more ‘army fame’) or regular positive quests, you get fame and ‘army fame’ to respective bars.
Army tasks could be pretty much anything:
Go to X location and clear out Pirate blockade for merchants.
There’s high criminal activity on X island, go hunt criminals down.
Escort high valuable cargo from X to Y.
X island is currently being attacked by a different kingdom, stationary ensigns need help. Cassia Town quest.
Being in Bronze Legion will make you wear clothing of your certain rank: Ensign, Legioner, Centurion, Captain, General etc. And each rank will have its own requirement similar to leaderboard. The only perks I can imagine for now is ship repairment and salary depending on rank.

4. Open Sea.

Now that we are more or less done with Ravenna, our level 57 Adrian Bronze gets on his newly bought sailboat, and starts his sailing in the Bronze Sea.
Seas in this theoretical “Warring Sea” is not much different from AO’s. You have your islands, castaways, marine creatures, NPC ships etc.
What I would suggest is to create more weather for open seas, and maybe add some sea events:
Merchant ship was sunk, and now sharks are circling around the shipwreck, kill sharks and rescue castaways.
There’s high bounty ship sailing around, go sink the ship and arrest them.
Etc.

5. Player activities.

What the fun playing RPG game if all you can do is fight, right? So lets finally add Auctioneer house and player professions. At first I thought of making buyable buildings for shops, but while it could be a cool feature, I think auctioneer houses would do the trick, so instead, we could more active professions.
Lets say alchemist instead of just buying ingredients, brewing potion and maybe enchanting items, had to actively go to Dark Sea for rare reagents, and they would be the only ones who are able to actually use enchanting scrolls, as any other person had 33% of it working like a randomized enchantment.
Someone like tailor could have a “stands” on his boat, so people could buy stuff from there.

6. Classes and builds.

I’m going to be honest, I don’t really enjoy class locks in AO, that is why I love playing savant, even though they are not that good right now. So why not just get rid of them in “Warring Seas”? A mage with 2 magics, blast shapes, old weapons and crash. Or Warrior with imbued cannon fist onto Ravenna Great sword and Great axe.

7. Other stuff.

Some other stuff that I forgot to mention:
War between kingdoms similar to that one idea from WOM where cultures would siege one another;
Kingdoms being able to claim islands and build towns or outpost on them for players to spawn on them. (Town – starting players; Outposts – army players.);
Moderators actually being some higher-ups in kingdom (Imagine Mimhere as Julian);
Spawning at the last seen location like in WOM;
Dark Sea actually changing your character either permanently, or until high tier healing is used.

Conclusion

I know that whole idea of AO with WOM game design is silly, but I kinda am a RP person, who comes up with lore for all of my randomized files. So, I just wanted to have place to finally write it down somewhere in order to forget about it, lol.
Throw tomatoes if you want, but I will still wait for Kingdom/Town Alignment to be what I imagined it in my head and then get disappointed :slight_smile:
Joke ^

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Wait, people actually roleplay in WoM?

i saw some Minato dude a while back

like, 2-3 years ago :skull:

kind of?
I used to follow some random roads with a few friends as merchants and we’d all hold our magic circles once we saw someone stepping onto the path
or we tried to be like bandits and kill random people walking along paths (it was quite boring to wait that long and we sucked at pvp)

It was actually very common

Oh my god I love this. AO is obviously better than Wom but Wom had a special something that made the characters feel more personalised. Plus the way you presented these ideas makes it sound so fun! I love the idea of not always starting on Dawn island and getting to choose with pros and cons, you spawn in Ravenna and have lots of options but its probably more dangerous with more players and since its a kingdom criminals are gonna have a rough time so your making your file harder by choosing Ravenna. You spawn in frostmill there is less to work with but it makes the island feel more personal towards your character as you get to explore every inch of the smaller island. I would love it if on the choosing screen it lists the pros and cons of each kingdom/town like for example for Sameria:

Pro: Sameria could be a really fun time due to its big size and lots of opportunity and if you pick a heat based magic you’ll have an advantage.

Con: However due to it being in the second sea NPCs will be stronger and you’ll probably want to spend lots more time on the island avoiding those fights and getting stronger before you decide to tackle sea based exploration.

And with every new update that adds new islands it could be a new starting location for your character too depending on if it’s a town/kingdom and if towns are related to kingdoms!

I would love to discuss this more, I feel this idea could have lots of potential if this was what AO was like. Im not saying AO is bad of course but throwing some wom into it can create a unique experience.

2 things that would make WoM infinitely better:

  • no stamina consumption on running
  • dashing
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Basically you don’t want AO :slight_smile:

I feel like a lot of the problems I have with ao can be accredited to the newer infamy system which encourages players to kill eachother rather than work together to kill npcs and take over towns and stuff. Its always a gamble whenever you run into another player if they are going to kill you or not. I mean there was still pvp in wom but it was more for fun in character reason. Wow you are attacking the silent tower… (or whatever it was called) as a hero I have to stop you!!! But like that was fun, now Ill just be minding my own business and some 1000 aoe guy jumps me with my neutral fame when Im like fishing or something (edit: I didnt know this thread was 2 months old :skull:)

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basically, we don’t want pointless 2 month necroposts which add nothing to the conversation except encouraging slightly more people to look at the topic

this is singlehandedly the best summary of this game I have ever seen

both with and without context… it’s just… peak…

This is kind of why I loved WoM- the random funny moments and funny interactions, which also made it feel more unique and personal. A lot of people probably had different experiences but for me I never got bored on my first play through because of all the randomness an exploration. I hadn’t heard of vetex before tho and wasn’t anticipating the game or keeping up with update patch notes, so that probably helped though.

I feel like WoM could’ve become really, really interesting if it had the rivals system of AO (and maybe an Allies system too??) and used that to generate emergent quests which followed a rough “story pattern” chosen from presets (e.g. “Your old friend Bob Davies has requested to meet you in the Whispering Forest about a plan for taking down your rival, Alex Star.” could be a quest description that pops up. You could meet with him and his plan could result in finding an old hideout / the person and it could auto generate a miniboss based off of the og rival for the occasion, signifying your rival’s progression)

sorry for the tangent lol, but I guess what I’m saying (not very well) is that what WoM did really well that I had never seen before was making roleplaying not take a ton of effort and making it somewhat fun.

Once again I am surprised people roleplayed in wom

WoM RP…
dont make me remember when i tried to start the catholic church as a guild in WoM