I personally don’t really see the complaints too much either if im gonna be honest.
Slow magics have always been rather straight forward since Wom and can/do work very well if you simply just go with it’s nature.
What will you do in order to get Key unbanned?
its gone
shadow doesn’t need nerfs it is as strong as it is rn because second magics and therefore interactions on magic are not reliable due to tier , this is a temporary problem entirely
fast magics do everything slow ones do but better, especially considering how similar their stats are
second magics wont be for a very long time, the game is borderline unplayable right NOW and we need changes AT THIS TIME, not 3 updates later in 2025.
bro… you don’t play heavy magics the same way as fast magics… you aoe demon and predict hard, Ion even play mage like dat, but I know that fact. Also uhh that point abt atk speed is it even true? Even if it is I don’t run a large amount anyway so it doesn’t really matter considering you’d have shapes with mage too
??? you’re saying it doesnt need nerfs “because it is as strong as it is rn because second magics”. I have literally no idea what you are saying
you or he can’t do anything
there’s no unbanning him after his repeated meltdowns, not unless if there’s another ban wipe or something like that (was that discord only or did it apply to the forums too?)
honestly with that he stays off the site for a while so he can have an introspection and figure out where things went wrong. he really shouldn’t be losing his cool over someone’s own views, no matter how much they vary
we should also avoid talking about this, it’s not quite the highlight of the topic anymore
fast magics and heavy magics generally have around the same damage, look at the post. and even if the damage was the same, they’d still be UNUSABLE because people just RUN and FLY into the AIR where my slow magic wont HIT.
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alright lemme simplify this for you
second magics on mage are unreliable because they are stuck at tier one (lowest aoe). as the level cap increases , so does the tier of second magics. because second magics are currently unreliable due to their low aoe , interactions on mage are not reliable.
when interactions become more reliable, shadow will be outclassed due to its lack of elemental interactions. it is meant to be a solo powerhouse, and that role seems overbearing right now because other magics are hardly able to outclass it due to not being able to actively benefit from their interactions frequently.
nimbus sea is a few months out, and tier changes may occur before that. this is a temporary problem entirely.
then predict or get a bit of agility to catch up to them
The 200 damage beam attack:
Well in an earlier post i went into GREAT detail about how you CANT predict if theyre constantly FLYING 50 feet in the AIR AS YOU CANT HIT them. There is nothing to predict. They are in the air. They will not come down. And if the blast takes 3 seconds to reach them thats not predicting thats them walking INTO your MOVE. Do you understand?
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interactions are a double-edged sword, not all of them are beneficial. FURTHERMORE, interactions are capped at 10%/20%. Shadow is better than most magics than a factor of 1.1x/1.2x meaning even with interactions shadow is better. Let us not mention how much easier it is to hit someone with one magic and not by chaining two magics together (interaction).
No…? The only exception is shadow which has high raw stats due to it having 0 synergies with 2nd magics which is kinda a big deal with how useful they can be, and even if you wanna use shadow as the standard for all the fast magics (extremely inaccurate) it still does a bit less than most of the heavy magics considering their gimmick is DoT
I think mage just isn’t for you then not going to lie
if they’re flying in the air then just go away from them until they go down you only have two air movements so you can’t fly forever
you can’t have negative interactions with your own attacks
all interactions are beneficial if they’re your own magic. If you had water and fire and it worked right your fire magic would be at 100% damage if you soaked someone with water earlier