Ash & water conjurer

I was talking to @OnionCream yesterday about our planned builds and I was comparing ash’s stats to water
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what is this bro :sob: does ash having clouds actually warrant it having such atrocious stats

You know a magic is bad when one of its actually only viable gimmicks in combat is to spam multibeams to drop your opponent’s frame-rate.

like at least poison can hurt people if you play correctly with it

poison has dot and clouds and better stats in every department except size this is actually so sus

Imbued conjurer doesn’t even leave clouds lol

Arsen is not eating well :skull:

the fact that my glass conjurer has better stats is insane

tbf bleed 2 isn’t awful tho and glass conjurer isn’t terrible on paper, but yeah, ash doesn’t deserve to be so fodder regardless, “support” magic or not.

there are such things as support magics?

Yes, things like ice and snow count under this category too, pretty much any magic that’s “mediocre” on its own and needs synergies to perform well is a “support” magic.

though snow magic actually has great stats and ice is still undeniably superior compared to poor ash magic.

(common snow W)

Some people might say light magic is a support magic btw but I think otherwise.

“b-b-b-but ash’s synergy-”


I keep saying it needs buffs but nobody listens :rage:

we need to rise up

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