Balancing cycle

Game Discussion PvP
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I’m sure you know what im talking about. Ever since release, the game has been stuck in a vicious buff/nerf cycle. First, there where the meta mages who did 500 damage with pulsar.

Then pulsar got nerfed to oblivion, and then came the crystal iron leg meta with 300 damage attacks. That got nerfed, and then came the thermo warlord meta raining down damage from the stratosphere. Thermo got killed, as did fs mobility moves. And here we are, at the current version.

Thing have, ocne again come full circle as heavy magics reign supreme again. cough cough metal surge 50% damage reduction gale gel surge cough

So, to all the testers and balancers out there, please, please sufficiently test your balance changes. I’m tired of having to put half my files in cryogenic freezing every time balance changes come about because they simply can’t compete anymore.

Dont get me wrong - I think, as of this version the game is balanced, taking into account the (new) balance docs. I’m simply stated my irritation with the buff/nerf cycle.

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Testers aren’t testing enough nor are they thinking out of the box when it comes to features affecting combat (surge + gale gel, exploding cannonballs making hunts indefinitely easier)

We need more testers (hire me)

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hire me as well (pls)

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Absurd how surge + gel synergy got away from testing, I mean seriously it was a multi hit spell did none of them think of a thought process like: Multi hit spell = test if said multi hit spell applies status effect = try it with gels = done

None of them probably have thought processes anyway lol.

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There might have been more features that were discovered and fixed, it still doesn’t excuse the fact that they let this level of fuckery slip through

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Testers try to test challenge

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One must imagine AO pvpers happy

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Thermo bad so it gets buffed > thermo amazing so it gets nerfed > thermo shit so
It gets buffed again

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every game with pvp ever has constant nerfing and buffing

also you can literally join the balance discord and vote on the changes yourself if you think you can balance that much better than them

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I mean, I for one wouldn’t destroy warding or even suggest to nerf it :joy:

(This is referencing that one absurd balance patch suggestion that was made idk lol)

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pretty sure the idea was to make atlantean items have a real drawback without making them unusable, but attacking warding caused a lot more harm than good

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Tbf the update that’s coming out this week solves alot of the issues for pvp the only thing that’s going to be complained about is stats but stats are what they are intended to be right now so we have diverse builds. Other wise we just have everyone min max power and defense again. I for one prefer having the stats as is and I actually think the game will have a pretty good balance to it after this update.

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Therein lies the problem. I, however, propose a flawless solution: remove PVP completely from the game :lightning_magic_var1:.

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You can’t vote for changes, the polls channel clearly states it’s not for decisions

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“Come in here and balance better if you think you’re hard enough.”

  • the one with actual authority on changes
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I mean, I didn’t know people were using gale gels until someone mentioned why they needed aeroplast

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for fuck’s sake YOU ALL JUST WANT FREE FUCKING STATS HUH
FUCK YOU
THEY SHOULD REMOVE VIRTUOUS ENTIRELY

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This guy just thought of a big brain solution. :rofl:

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Imo it’d be cool if there was occasionally a public balance test, open for like, a day. A clone of Elysium in an alternate game where you can use whatever armor, items, or build you want. Then you could have people experiment with the changes and see if anything is egregiously broken before release.

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Will never work because then balancing team won’t feel entitled and superior anymore

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