Continents of the War Sea [TGR Suggestion]

TGR and AO are a change for the better, beyond a doubt they are, but id hate to just see magius disappear and have it all go to waste. If the massive landform idea vetex was working towards isnt going to work and its gonna be closer to islands, then i offer a third idea.

Continents. Areas that are plain massive and take up their own server to go into (like a sea). They dont have to be as big as seas but they can be these absolutely massive islands. Id say a continent would be about what magius was in size when the game released or generally with that ball park of release to updates 1 or 2. This can also let you reuse most of the current magius as one continent.

Vetex can use this massive area since it no longer has the limitations of tons of npcs and lots of preformance drawing systems to his advantage. Making big area storylines for continents. Putting dungeons, and treasure. Magius doesnt have to disappear, but it doesnt have to be fully formed yet, if we want to consider the current timeframe.

Magius is a large landmass that has formed on the war torn seas, too young to have reached the massive landscapes we would see hundreds of years later in WoM. due to the large amount of magical energy present in the land, magius has been drawing seperate land masses into it, causing it to become noticably larger in mass compared to usual islands, many wizards have moved there to attempt to study the land or exploit its power to gain and edge in the war. the most powerful of them have set up complex bases and milltia to defend their stakes on magius. while the natives are constantly in the middle of it all, just trying to survive.

You dont have to leave, magius behind, you just gotta go back to its origin.

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as suggested, god no

given we’ll have entire ocean/boat systems and shit now,
continents would just be a waste of development time
the lore you put behind it doesn’t even make sense within the universe

the whole point of making the game into a sea is so theres boats and islands
and we’ll definitely get a handful of big islands regardless

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Adding continents the size of the current game’s map just adds back the old problems that are stated in the TGR post. The max size of an island is going to be 2x the size of Alalea from Arcane due to these reasons

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fair enough, your the dev, what you say goes. you do know more than me and better than me when it comes to the game, obviously

i think i just hate to see magius disappear. it may have caused some issues but it still feels great as a map itself. especially all the little details like the tiny tavern hidden in the mountain peak or the flooded tower full of treasure.
it may be leaving very soon but i still think magius itself is a great map

i do hope your plans work out well for the future of the game regardless vetex, have a good night

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Was a great map
:pensive:

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it still is for now, we just gotta treasure it while it lasts i suppose

Alright, I think the size could be upped.


This is 2x Alaleas, which for the biggest island is pretty small. I think the biggest Island in AO should be the size of Permafrost or 3/4ths of it.
Important Island Sizes should be:

Biggest: Permafrost sized

Larger: Oblitesco/Sabura/Alalea sized

Medium: Mavist/2x Savaria

Smaller Sized: 2x Doom/2x Redwood/2x Savaria

Wilderness Island sizes should be:

Biggest: Judgement Island sized

Larger: Mavist Sized/Dawn Refuges

Medium: Slightly bigger Altavista/ and slightly Moon Lake Isle

Smaller: 1st Sea Volcano, Eve Island, Orange Island sized

Other things to note:
Islands should have more vertical compared to AA islands (some flat/low lying islands are alright if done detailed enough)

More “areas of the sea” areas like the pillars in the 2nd sea and areas of the sea that have preset.

Definitely more islands like Sunrise Ravine/staircase to heaven

Might make a post going more indepth later idk

No, you need to find the area of Alalea first, then multiply it by two. Not add an extra block to the side

It is the same area, just distributed differently, i copied the shape, and put it right next to it. The area is the same. Multiplication is repeated addition, which is why this works: 2(x) is the same as x+ x=2x so 2(A) is the same as a+a

Permafrost island was smaller than Alalea, unless you mean the entire Crystal Archipelago itself, then yeah. Archipelagos/groups of islands like that will still exist. The sizes you listed are pretty much what I’m going to go off of, I just wanted it to be clear that there won’t be any insanely massive islands

edit: also by 2x i meant more like this (but this doesnt mean the biggest islands will be perfectly square either cuz thats lame) which actually now that I think about it this is 4x lol
image

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I meant the entire size of the crystal archipelago (didnt even know it was called that) or maybe 3/4s of it

Ohhhhh, alr

I’m not gonna hold you, that’s way too small. Frankly double that size would be perfect for a super large island; it’d give ample room to actually explore while still being manageable.

How tall can we expect an island to go up to? Around half the height of Mt. Seawatch?

If you think that’s way too small then you’re high

quicc maths

Do you understand how small Alalea is? 4 Alalea’s for the (l a r g e s t) island, is a tad bit small. I’d say a decent margin larger than that as the largest size as it’s not current Magius size and still large enough for multiple towns/cities.

Well like I said, archipelagos and large groups of islands will still exist, and no island size is set in stone. If there is ever a need for a massive island, I’ll make one, but don’t expect random wilderness islands to be the size of the whispering forest :fr:

Also, 4x the size of Alalea IS actually massive, a lot of people seem to forget it was pretty big, just that the town itself was small. For more scale, this is a picture of 4 Alaleas, and the red arrow points to Theos, an NPC, which is barely even visible

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wait 4? you originally said 2

Adding continents the size of the current game’s map just adds back the old problems that are stated in the TGR post. The max size of an island is going to be 2x the size of Alalea from Arcane due to these reasons

Things can change, like he said if an island needs to be bigger than he’ll make a bigger one.