Oh my bad you were talking about clans so I was assuming it’d be PvP subclans let me reiterate.
Basically if they’re earning renown for their clan, which of course they are it seems unbalanced tbh because then they have more methods that they can use so it’s essentially like having both of the methods even if one works less it’s still more which you can easily stack.
are you talking about clan leaderboards? also two methods caters to more people so i feel it’s fair + a clan with only pve could be a bit difficult or lengthy to progress in my opinion
God I wish we had private player banks added as an actual system like the ones they had in WoM that sadly didn’t work.
What makes you say that? I’d say PvP would’ve been the harder method with all the PvE content coming to full release.
Yes I am
yeah but we’ll assume vetex would probably not make subguilds an option for organisations as theyre made for PvP situations
Most likely better to be honest I don’t see why they’d be important for guilds.
Didn’t you say that the syndicate and navy subclans were PvE? Or is there something I’m missing?
it completely depends. for PvP, infamy gain from hunting players will have a massive increase in full release. i remember before the nerf i made a clan and earned about 1.9k infamy in 6 hours for it. and ive done pve aswell, infamy gain there isnt so much, it feels like a bonus after you pour hours into grinding loot n whatnot
Oh thank God they added a PvP toggle then. I don’t actually care about renown and infamy etc tbh a I see them as pointless but guilds are interesting to me. Although I’ll prob join an npc one
Ill reiterate. I think organisations themselves are made for PvP, hence why adding the clan/guild option for making suborganisations within them could be tricky, as the main gimmick for them is to assassinate or arrest players and rise the ranks. and if you were a pvp player doing this i imagine you could rack up a reputation then keep your toggle off the entire day lol
You’re joining the church of morock clan. or guild. depends when we do a. re vote.
I’m in the church of Morock just because skittles is funny but I’m not gonna join the clan (alright ggs I’m getting crucified)
On sight.
we have like 40k infamy rn so im just trynna decide on what to do lol
Why would they be earning renown then? If they have the option to toggle PvP off it means they’re not in a clan or guild
Max speed brig go wooooosh
you think i dont have one? 
i think you’re confused, guilds get the option to turn pvp on or off.
No but I have swim speed and oxygen capacity and will leave the game before I can die.
If I see a max speed brig coming towards me and notice a clan symbol above it ramming me I’m just leaving. Do not underestimate my cowardess.
LOL alr 
Ah alright but they’re not going to earn infamy from doing that though. Guilds are purely PvE, they can turn the toggle off and on but those are the individual players and their methods for gaining renown are just PvE.