Specifically on savants, what enchantment fo you think will go well with the said weapon?
Just asking cuz I’m indecisive as to what enchantment (either dense or ardent) will I use on lance loyalty.
Dense will make it nice, but if I put piercing gale and spiralling fury on it, I think it would be too slow.
On the other hand, if I put ardent, will it even significantly improve the speed?
I know the full release is still far away but who cares? I wanna plan my build rn lol
Ardent, dense will make it way too slow. I used it with dense and it was incredibly slow.
Ardent with a DoT magic as to not let the decreased damage be a bother.
Magma will be a solid choice, ending up with ~0.96(+50% from DoT and bleed synergy) Power, ~0.78 Speed, ~1.51 Size + area denial (hazards)
no speed invest ardent lance+speed imbue is frankly insane
Ardent.
Don’t use Spiraling Fury, its bad on Lance.
When Full Release drops, the arguably only correct moveset for the Lance will be this:
Annihilation
Sparrow Thrust
Piercing Strikes
Piercing Gale
i’d beg to differ
i’d beg to differ against your begging to differ, i’ve tried it
it goes nowhere even on ardent lance, its best used on dagger or a regular rapier.
besides it has no room with the moveset i just said, all 4 of those skills are outright better to use, and i’ll list the reasons why:
Annihilation is going to be stupid from what i saw of it.
Sparrow Thrust is an obvious choice, its ult shockwave smash without the damage boost pretty much.
Piercing Strikes is one of the best weapon grabs, and has VERY good combo potential.
Piercing Gale is one of the best weapon projectiles.
You also have to realize that, Spiraling Fury just… isn’t good on the classes that you’d be using Lance on?
Crash does pretty much the same thing it does but better.
i call leaks
the funny part is im not patreon nor do i even know who my source is (i’ll edit it anyways)
I’d dare to say it’s bad period. Its hitbox is more unreliable than the chance of getting good stuff out of an Akursius treasure chart, only showing up at the tail-end of the dash. If you aren’t at the perfect distance, odds are it won’t hit.
people mostly use it for movement, but even then Crash still outclasses it in all situations lol
works well for my purposes
your genuinely wasting a move slot then.
im talking about currently
it does kind of suck outside of mobility (but it is quite good for mobility)
because youre not meant to rely on it for damage whatsoever??? 
Hear me out, dense lance (1.9x total i think) + high size + sailor imbue and do a sparrow thrust
no its hitbox is genuinely broken, it was fixed in one of the patchnotes but I don’t think it has been published to maingame yet.
Lance (1.3 size)
Dense lance (~1.63 size)
Dense saillance (~2.3 size)
Maximum size with a dense saillance (~4.27 size)
Total sparrow thrust length on a 120/160 warlord (~51.83, ~65.11, ~91.91, ~170.3)
Total sparrow thrust width on a 120/160 warlord (unchanged, based on tier only)
Conclusion: It would be a pretty good alternative to shot if it wasn’t for its 0.6 second wind-up and 1 second end-lag.
That is true, i js said that bcs of a friend of mine who told me
