Full Release Update Patch Notes (Discussion Thread)

Now it’s just basic combat with a long range M1. I’d rather it have remained underpowered and have the fully realized fantasy of being a walking cannon, instead of becoming a watered down imitation of its former self.

To be fair no one uses cannon fist anyway so nothing of value was lost

Nobody will use cannon fist after this except as a stat stick for imbuing. I had two cannon fist characters! Should wood be turned into an earth re-skin next, remove the magic effects that make it look like wood and branches and whatnot, because it’s not used as much as the others?

a better analogy would be “should we turn surge into a blast reskin cause its hard to balance”

My condolences

I pretended I was throwing money at people using gold imbue! It doesn’t work as well without grapeshot! I liked my CANNONLORD, pretending I’m wielding entire cannons, it was a great fantasy, and once we got hand cannons it would have been peak!

I’m not going to jump the gun in case this change gets reverted, but I can see myself benching my cannon fists in favor of other build ideas that hopefully won’t get gutted.

There are gonna be 2 new fighting styles this update so hopefully it’s not all in vain

Atlantean slaves?

Wrong topic

i am so curious about the right topic

If the unique traits of fighting styles are going to be gutted, it will be in vain. I hope we don’t end up with fast red basic combat and large blue basic combat instead of Thermo Fist and Sailor Style.

that… is a water fountain.

See tobi’s roman houses on his twitter
(his? i have to get better at this bro)

On the one hand this is genuinely good for gmae balance on the other hand NOOO MY BALLER BUILD

dialogue needs to be changed, mentor talks about exploding shells

i can see missing using grapeshot and exploding shells with the fstyle, but at some point there are kind of a few problems with using cannonballs as ammo bc it made using cfist even more unviable. its like the bow/gun problem with ammo being a galleon sink, but even worse, because you can only get good cannonballs from sealed chests

People can now just get cannon fist at a low level and be able to actually use it.
The inability to do as many funny things with it is a worthy sacrifice I would say

Guess I won’t be getting the fabled Charred status from Exploding Shells now. Even more dead than when that Bteam change got rejected.

Anyway, I think this solves all of my issues with Cannon Fist. It’s now not stupidly expensive for how early it’s obtained, has damage that’s actually worth something, and doesn’t waste ship supplies.

And all it cost was Cannon Fist.

im not sure how i feel about the cfist change as a cfist enjoyer

personally i still think you should be able to swap between regular shells and grapeshots because it gives two different niches for different builds

(regular shells for normal people, grapeshot does more upfront damage but can’t apply bleed as easily)