Get rid of invisible guilds

BRO, why solve the minor issue of invis guilds, when the major issue is solo guilds denting the growth of small to mid sized guilds by destroying their infamy with -5s.

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They’re both problems and they both need to be fixed.
You do realize that most solo guilds are invisible, right?

the -5 from invis guilds aren’t that bad since a normal GM does that but when you pull up tryna fight and there’s 3 people ready to hand you -15 with just 3 deaths and you only gain 6 back from killing them it just makes it unfair in infamy terms

I want you to take 2 minutes, put aside the fact that we are arguing, and try to understand our argument. I will also do the same. I am not saying this in any bad way, just try so we don’t waste our time and we can move on from this 200 post argument. At the end, if you can’t understand and realize our side, then that’s fine.

the fact that it shouldnt exist doesnt mean moderators have to put in so much effort instead of changing the infamy loss or just you learn to be aware of invisible guilds

both? alright explain to me in detail whats wrong with an invis guild if they cant -5 you and instead can only -1 or -2/-3 you? What would invis guilds be then? Furthermore the people in invis bank guilds etc who dont want to -5 people, whats wrong with them?

If it shouldn’t exist then the moderators shouldn’t be asked to do their jobs?
Excuse me what?

the thing is, its a massive amount of avoidable effort

Alright lemme explain the amount of effort you’re talking about here.
Moderator gets pinged because of invisible guild.
They look at the guild, see that it was just created…
and they disband it in a couple clicks.

It would be a massive amount of effort at first, but that’d quickly die down as people stop creating them.

if people saw invisible guilds they would just avoid the name behind it as they do now

They aren’t getting paid for shit I believe, (and even if they are, they shouldn’t be forced to do things when’s there’s a much more simple solution) so please try not to act like the mods owe you something. Why make people work harder when we can just work smarter and make it so invis guilds just aren’t threatening to small guilds? AKA making the infamy system more balanced.

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You would have to do that with hundreds of guilds, and people would make alts to create more.

DUDE ITS BEEN A FULL FUCKING HOUR

:fr:

he said people would stop doing it because it would be swiftly deleted/punished

Alright so now you believe that I’m saying that the mods owe me something.

Is that the only comeback you have?

No, this is your problem. Instead of looking at the big picture, you look at the small thing that someone and just dig into it instead of understanding the main point.

or take a look at the tab, more people who do care about infamy enough to be aware of invisible guilds will be aware enough to check the tab whenever someone joins

Yes because your entire point can be summed up that easily.
Its hard to make a large and detailed comeback to a shit point.