class beef would mostly disappear if we werent restricted into our classes & could put points in however we wanted. Like for example, i have issues with strength weapons as a concept since they’re limited to warlord & savant but give them nearly the same amount of content as warrior, but like. if p…

I dont really want more cringy metamancing with stats, like mages getting essentially access to a third of available weapon skills just from spending like 50 points on weapons. Strength weapons are an anomaly and shouldn’t be used as a basis for anything, they have been a constant source of problem…

People would just go from beefing with classes specifically to beefing with stat investments (also the inevitable minmax hell as waping mentioned)

[image] Allowing a warlord like this to fly freely… among other absurd stat combinations

[image] cas_lavender: if people could just invest exactly 100 strength to get access to all strength weapon skills on an otherwise all-weapons build, i would be perfectly fine with it. balancing nightmare :sob: but honestly, it’s not like removing build allocation limits would fix a thing, m…

so like. on waping’s statement here, warrior could 100% use Some strength weapons, especially considering how hard they lean to size-based gameplay. not only that but we’d also get access to colossal weapon skills (specifically colossal cleave rn), AND combinations of skills that are otherwise impos…

[image] cas_lavender: Like for example, i have issues with strength weapons as a concept since they’re limited to warlord & savant but give them nearly the same amount of content as warrior And I am still pissed that colossal cleave is a far easier to obtain skill than fury of the sea, with m…

the only good thing abt this is how it nerfs the early game for savants (they would basically be stuck with only a single imbue option till a level cap that is not yet available) but the late game would end up being an actual nightmare (even if they would be stuck with skills that are comparatively…

I think the correct course of option is to remove stat builds entirely and let people use all items like AA again

[image] Waping: Strength weapons are an anomaly and shouldn’t be used as a basis for anything, they have been a constant source of problems. I disagree. Every class should have a gimmick, strength weapons are the only one that exist in a meaningful way right now. Arcanium weapons for conjur…

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Amuka June 21, 2026, 9:06pm 4

I actually had a similar idea in the public enemy thread, which also just straight up removes awakenings since that is apparently only for gameplay purposes despite vetex also making stuff as anti fun features???

and of course the problems that would become apparent very quickly

mainly stuff like warlordvant in it’s prime showing up again given the level cap gets high enough