How do you counter Warlocks? (and why are they not nerfed yet?)

I’m a pvp NOOB👹, here are my thoughts on warlock:

Warlocks have virtually zero counters in the game.

Warlocks have:
huge AOE
huge damage
high speed/maneuverability
insane amounts of hp
frozen/paralyzed/petrified synergies

v More warlock facts v

  • Warlocks do not suffer from long range as they are half mage, allowing them to use both beam and shot.
  • Despite shot being their “”“weakest”“” attack, it still does a ton of chip damage and is very easy to hit
  • Sailor style makes their attacks literally undodgeable
  • If they’re on your brig in the middle of the ocean, you lost (even worse if theyre using ice/snow/electricity magic)
  • Blocking their attacks still causes massive chip damage
  • Selino/crash allows them to easily go airborne, attack while moving, and makes them significantly harder to hit, while most classes in the game are stuck in endlag after their attacks, making them very hard to zone
  • Selino/crash additionally allows them to follow up with a smash, which with its huge AOE is undodgeable in most cases

Am I missing something? Why is warlock not the most nerfed class in the game?
No other class in the game is as awful to play against like warlock.

People complain about WARRIORS, a slow class that is easily countered and blocked, (which even as a pvp NOOB :ogre:, is easy to counter) but no one talks about warlocks, the real issue with the game, ruining the game since it came out.

In order the ensure the game’s survival, warlocks must be highly nerfed and/or removed from the game entirely.

Pro pvpers, how are you supposed to counter warlocks? :enraged_face:

Same problem I’m having, they’re just too quick and deal too much damage while taking up my entire screen

yea at this point the only way defeat a warlock is using a brainless AOE warlock build yourself and try to out-AOE them

nuclear bomb

Don’t get hit, don’t let the enemy don’t get hit.

THANK YOU i’ve had my ass handed to me by warlocks since release.
Them mfs fly faster that fighter jets and hit harder than nuclear warheads

hi self proclaimed pvp pro here who also hates warlocks and has been hating on warlocks ever since i started pvping

warlocks can’t have all of it at once, that’s just not how builds work
i’m gonna divide this into two categories, speed warlocks and size warlocks, cus they’re different enough to where you have to approach them differently

also i’m gonna assume u don’t play a fighting style class

first, aoe warlocks
warlocks are arguably the best class for cqc, given strength moves and synergies (often with a slow synergy added in to be extra annoying)
that’s why you ahve to backdash like your s key is glued down
more often than not aoe warlocks won’t have an answer against heavy zoners, since their only real ranged attack is beam while the zoner often has beam blast javelin weapon projectiles etc…
like, literally just spam backdash and try to molest them in endlag
you are NOT winning in cqc 9 times out of 10 unless ur also a fs class (or if they have a severe skill issue lmao)

second, speed warlocks
these guys are a lot more tricky if the person using them is actually good at the game
they’re a lot harder to zone but often times not as strong in cqc since no big fat aoe and likely less damage synergy
still, backdashing is often the best way to deal with them, but it’s possible to play a bit more cqc if ur good enough
against a really good speed warlock, you just have to play against them like how you play against other cracked speed build users
projectile spam and hope you have better aim and parry skills

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at a certain skill level speed builds start destroying size builds

its impossible if they jump u, once they get the first hit they pretty much guaranteed win cuz it slows you down and then they just blast u into oblivion

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if you get the jump on them though the chances are only a tiny bit higher, but then they still got hella hp so its pretty much imposible to kill them

I just stay very far and impaling strike them to get them away if I get forced into a disadvantageous cqc position

i mean youre not wrong, everyone says just backdash against warlocks (which is true to some extent)

in reality its a highly losing battle
its like youre backdashing, you accidently snag on a rock or weird terrain, they catch up, you die

and ofc if they board your brig theres nowhere to backdash to, you instantly die
and fighting in water is just dying even faster

and of course you can keep backdashing but as you spam attacks it locks you in place and gives them more distance to close in
or, youll run out of stamina and be forced to stop running

and even when everything goes perfect, youre backdashing and spamming pulsars and javelins, all it takes is ONE mistake and you instantly lose the fight.
fall in water? death
run out of stam? death
run out of space to run? death
no other class matchup is as polarizing like this

i imagine in elysium where everything is clean with perfect terrain, size warlocks are easier to deal with but backdashing is much different in the main game

as for speedlocks, ive never, ever seen these before. it sounds like players who want to purposely nerf themselves from how absurdly overpowered typical warlock is

if they gank u ur cooked. theres nothing more to it

nah i find backdashing to be easier

have better situational awareness

you’re right on that one
that’s why i hate fighting on boats as a speed lightning conjurer

their endlag also locks them in place
to a lesser degree ofc since they have mobility like crash but (from my experience) it’s not as bad as ur making it seem

uhhmmmmm not rly?
most warlocks can’t turn a fight around instantly like that
the ones that do (usually some super high power magma ileg or something similar) are usually really slow and it’s insanely easy to just… not get hit by them

speedlock is stronger if the person using them is good at the game
but people who are good at the game usually run mage these days xd

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maybe with that attitude you are

nah bro its just impossible, before u can even react they have half ur hp down and 1 of ur limbs gone and then u just die, like they come for u and they have the insta dash reflex and they slow u down with each hit and paralyze u, freeze is even worse and u cant even do nothin in the water, on land u have mabye a bit more of a fighting vhance if u use terrain but if on brig or in water then its just cooked, they will end up making u run out of stamina and sink

idk what to tell u except maybe block parry dodge :person_shrugging:

60% of warlocks ive seen do 500-600 base dmg when they attack on any move, blocking makes it 300. parrying they too fast

500 - 600 damage in one attack?
they’re either full charging it or have negative hp dude

they always have like 4k or 3k hp