Hypothetical lost magic builds?

ok but the difference is iris is literally just a normal flare magic npc, so her gimmick MUST be a actual part of the magic

calvus has boss gimmicks, apocalypse bringer imbue, unique spells, any number of things that can explain the 500! x3. this isn’t “heavily evidenced” its one of like 6 other theories that all hold more merit than this idea

Bro think he Lazarus Curse.

I just belive he doesnt use 400 attack speed unlike most of pvpheads

calvus the typa guy to have a tiny bit of every substat

bro thought the 30 resistance was going to do anything :broken_heart:

Maplestorm confirmed in DMs that Aether is around the speed of Fire, and I’ll take his word for it because:

  1. He has used it himself.
  2. This matches up with the NobleSymphony execution video perfectly. A greatsword-shape fire blast and greatsword-shape aether blast were both seen in that video, and their speeds are very similar.

If you guys wanna calculate the exact stats, you might be able to get a close estimate using these videos where a hacker showcases Cataclysm, Aether, and Flare.

The exact stats don’t matter since Vetex said they’re all going to be changed once they’re player-obtainable anyway, but at least we could get an idea of what Vetex roughly wants them to be like.

Well, this video does show only charged Aether attacks, which doesn’t necessarily confirm or disconfirm anything.
High possibility that this person simply knows how to use Aether magic, but also the possibility that it actually just charges for that long.
It’s also not finalized, because it’s not played accessible yet, and it possibly wouldn’t have been properly coded.

I’m not sure this is enough to reshape my opinion on it, but it can definitely help Hyperspace’s confirmation bias.

I’d assume a gimmick that’s apparently the main feature of the magic would be coded in

Do you know what a confirmation bias is, i cant have a confirmation bias when THERES ONLY ONE EXAMPLE.

Also that exploiter clearly could use text to edit. If it had something unique like that I’d assume they’d point it out. I’m not saying this proves anything, but it’s certainly evidence.

Also the charging appears to be incredibly quick in the video, unlike the “slow, powerful charging” you claim exists

Slow? No. Slower? Yes.
The magic circle charging period is definitely very long.

Undertale Magic?

Slower than what, sure it’s slower than light, but it’s stated to be the speed of fire.

I can show you a fire magic charging speed if you need

a bit confused on what yall are discussing but there’s a clip of someone imbuing unreleased magics including aether if it’s useful for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61r4IctDrDU (embed fail :frpensive:)

You know what? I’m not totally familiar with weapon builds, but that actually does seem a little bit baseline on casting time…

It looks like, significantly faster

I don’t think they were fully charging it, but based of effects it’s absolutely not charging slowly.

Well, it’s either best when charged, or forced to be charged, and it’s not very telling when we get a clip of somebody using an imbuement and casting attacks at a normal speed.

Alright

But your theory is it’s subpar when not charged though, simply check the damage and if it seems abnormally low, than that’s evidence for your guess

Well, I’m not saying it would be “LOW”, especially not with Vatrachos gear. Below average at the least, it still has no other real backing besides the charging.

Also you’d think they’d have found this out, and shown it off in the video right?

This video is giving absolutely NOTHING for your idea

I mean there’s another clip where he does the same thing with warlock but he actually fully charges the attacks with no noticable extra damage so (skip to 8:22) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX_ZyC5x52I