I dare to talk about the Dark Sealed Chests giveaways conundrum

Game Discussion
1

Recently, i’ve seen an influx in the scenarios that the game shuts down, and players who play the game around the time it shut down are rewarded with ingame rewards, like dark sealed chests.

I believe this is wrong for multiple reasons, but i’d like to talk about one reason that really bothers me.

so basically, since the players lose a possibly large amount of progress due to this shutdown (which thankfully has a clear indicator for when it’ll happen), the developers intend on compensating the players by giving them an (arguable) large amount of in-game rewards.

i’ve hardly seen this happen in video games, especially not multiple times. it’s morally wrong to do this. The players see this as an unnatural increase/bump to their Drachma/Items/Whatever has value inside the game, and are complaining when this ISNT happening. Apparently to them, it’s a good thing. Well, why wouldn’t they? they don’t have to do anything and just get a buncha dark sealed chests and drachma and rare scrolls and equipment, so what reason do they have to complain? (help i’m getting sick writing this)

This is the prime example of a toxic developers to players relationship in my opinion, the players are getting used to getting their free, efforeless fanservice (in-game rewards), obliging the developers to give them that fanservice, causing them to want it more, and on and on. Honestly i feel bad for the developers :sob: surely they don’t deserve this treatment

I wanna make it clear that i do not intend to reply to any pointless hate comments that ignore the point that i stated such as “bro doesn’t want her dark sealed chests”, “blud’s einstein”, etc etc. I posted this to maybe bring this issue to light a little bit and not endlessely complain and rage.

As for anyone who wants to contribute to this topic and maybe raise an important point i might have missed or generally somehow contribute to the topic, i’d love to see and/or reply to those!

(I tried to add the very serious tag or some other tag to this to make it appear to more people looking for serious posts, but i didn’t manage to… hopefully this still gets seen tho!)

2

I personally don’t see the problem with this. The game is definitely played better in large play sessions as opposed to just getting on for 20 minutes (considering treasure and sea charts), meaning of someone is mid grind then a server shutdown could mess up this progress, so a somewhat minor amount compensation isn’t that much of a problem right?

Plus with fleets, dark sealed chests have so much less value, people can grind out a couple hundred without even atepping foot into the dark sea, so I personally don’t see the issue if some people get 15 for getting a play session interrupted.

3

blud doesnt want his dark sealed chests :wilted_flower: :skull:
maybe if the devs didnt make half assed updates that require 20 hotfixes to work we wouldnt have this problem

4

@Dudeman

5

Also what generally annoys me with this stuff is that it favors players in a certain timezone, when more people might’ve been affected.

Another game that I played often dropped codes on big updates that lasted as little as 30 minutes after the updated dropped, meaning if you were an international player, you could print that code out, wrap it in a pencil and shove it up your ass.

And yeah, the growing compensation is very much an issue. They could easily just add a code or something.

1 Like
6

300 lunacy

7

I get what you mean - like don’t get me wrong, the rewards are definitely nice (even if I’ve fucking MISSED them all so far) and obviously a little compensation for actual issues is good, but this isn’t an actual issue. As far as I’m aware, these shutdowns were for maintenance, and a marginally improved game is compensation enough imo

So am I a little miffed I missed the Dark Sealed Chests? Obviously, because again, they’re definitely nice to have. But if I had to choose between having those and having better gameplay, I’m picking the gameplay. If the game goes down for literally no reason then imo THAT’S when compensation is in order.

TLDR: I think things like this are good in the right circumstances, but I agree that these are not those circumstances.

1 Like
8

they gave out like 10 dark sealed chests which is nothing + bro doesn’t want her dark sealed chests + blud’s einstein etc.

9

So I’m someone who missed it (womp womp) but with full release adding fleets, I’m not sure the value of said chests matter much. Early on people yeah since dark sea loot isn’t as accessible but later game a few chests is nice but not game changing (unless rng god on your side and you get like every new scroll I guess). Though personally I don’t think these shutdowns warranted said hand outs. You did get a chunk of time to wrap up whatever you were on unless you were like. Deep into the dark seas I guess

10

Do I really have to explain common sense to forumers now? Alright, I will…

Firstly, the entertainment industry—like any business—is interpersonal in nature. That is to say, it inevitably will contain some amount of social, human-to-human communication.
What does this mean? That this is a two-way street; Just as the workers of this business should treat their customers well in order to retain them, their customers should treat them well in return so that they may continue doing such a good job.
Now, tell me, in what world is apologising for a mistake that inconvenienced others morally wrong and rarely seen? It sounds to me that you’d instead rather have developers abuse their community, thinking that it should be grateful for all that they do—even the bad and the ugly.

Secondly, this behaviour is in fact commonplace in the sector. Live-service games—most especially freemiums—do this quite often, with some being quite generous and successful as a result.
This is a business tactic, not a toxic relationship. What would be one are players growing entitled to endless, copious, and unnecessary rewards, becoming toxic in their way of being when they do not get what they want—not this.

1 Like
11

Going be fr I missed that part in their uh. Rant? I dunno what to call it. I think calling it a toxic relationship/act is insane. Do I think the cheats were needed? No. Was it was nice gesture to those who may of been effected? Yeah. While I can’t comment on how common this is in other games I don’t think it matters. Common or not it doesn’t make it not a kind gesture even if the reasoning is selfish for the game

12

they have given away 30 thus far (5, then 10, than 15)

13

unironically still nothing. even before fleets 30 chests is about 30-35 mins of DS grind

14

I think this comes from a very good point of view and I agree with the fact that not putting in any effort for in-game rewards creates a pointless and meaningless environment and I do all around think the amount should be decreased however:

By complaints I think you just mean the joking type of global messages that go “more patches please” which are trying to be sarcastic, it’s not something to be taken too seriously compared to people getting more annoyed with something like getting a mythical chart and then it happening and starting to complain about it happening. And for the vast majority of people, yeah, it’s a good thing, it’s sort of the same thing as a snow day: The kids like it because there’s no school and they’re having fun, another person might view it as a loss of education time, it can be both.

15

I don’t really see ghe problem, as compensation is better than none. Anything obtainable from fleets is worthless anyway now.

16

image
image600×600 19.9 KB

17

Yeah, this kind of behaviour i see from the players in the game, the discord server, the forums, etc with them demanding getting this kind of compensation, and then demanding more when they get it is really ridiculous.
The shutdowns were handled very neatly, with a timer counting down to it, and were there for a good reason, and this still happens :sob:

18

There are people who will always beg. Using them as a reflection is bad faith at best. The dev team felt bad for all the shutdown and gave a small hand out as a “we’re sorry”

19

Now were they needed? No but at the end of the day it’s the dev team’s call

20

I can’t speak for anywhere beyond the forums but tbh I’ve not seen much of that demand or entitlement here