[quote="lookingforabargain, post:313, topic:145415]
I’ve distrusted the forum mob’s bait senses ever since I made a thread saying that a few people who lost their items to a bug getting their items restored would be better than no one getting their items restored and they called it bait
(1/4th of people agreed with me, according to a poll in the thread)
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Hi!!!
A post quoted from 1 year ago! Woohoo! Time to take a trip down memory lane!
[TLDR;]
Your arguments didn’t make sense to at least 77% of people and it made you seem like you were going crazy.
Simple summary of my thoughts on the matter. (I must defend my honor!)
You were fucking baiting. (Or at least seemed like it.) Please reread everything you had said.
You argued points against people who were arguing something different, making it feel like you had reading comprehension issues. (You used points that would have actually made sense in an argument against me while debating a guy who was arguing something different.)
You called giveaways more unfair than random restores because they gave a random person something instead of restoring what they’ve lost. Which, to this day, still seems like an insane point to make-
(And here's why.)
Imagine this.
In a giveaway, everyone starts at 0. They have gained nothing and have lost nothing.
Thus, when someone wins a giveaway, no one loses anything and someone gains something. No one feels cheated as no one has actively been negatively impacted.
In what you are suggesting, everyone starts at -1. Everyone has been negatively impacted and those who win become unaffected by the negative impact.
Therefore, everyone who has not won the item restore feels cheated because they’ve also been negatively impacted.
It’s like this.
Imagine having 25 dollars in your debit card, but suddenly- BOOM! The 25 dollars disappear.
When you complain to the bank and try to get the money back, they give you a scratcher and say that if you win the jackpot, you get your 25 bucks back.
If you win, you don’t go and say “Awesome! Yay! How nice!” like you would if you were to win a normal jackpot on a normal scratcher.
Instead, you would probably say, “Thanks, I guess. Can I have my money back now?”
And if you lose, you wouldn’t say “Well, this is this and that is that. Shame, though.” as if you bought a normal scratcher.
You would probably say something along the lines of, “What the fuck is this bullshit? Give me my fucking money back.”
Feels a lot more unfair than a giveaway, doesn’t it?
In other words;
Data restoration for only a select few people feels random and unfair compared to people randomly getting stuff.
23% of 39 people is 9. A 30:9 ratio.
I can make a poll that says, “Hitler wasn’t that bad of a person!” and there will be a lot more than just 9 fucking people who will say “I agree!” like a fucking muppet just to troll or play the jovial contrarian.
Also, ragebait and shit takes are not mutually exclusive. (Just like the infamous example I just used.)
You are wrong by virtue of my ability to think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Anger-inducing point.
Anyhow if it feels like bait and sounds like bait, there’s a high likelihood I will assume it is, in fact, bait. And like what Theoretical said, it was too unbelievable for me to truthfully believe that you seriously believed in the idea. Thus it was bait.
I believe I have defended my honor here enough. I’m going to head to bed and ignore anything else that relates to what I have just said here. No derails! (And also, to reiterate, its been almost a year.) Cheers.
Bonuses!!!
Also after checking the list of fallacies, Argument to Moderation might be the one that applies here. And it only took me 9 months!
Dude started playing a caricature of a stereotypical toxic freshie ganker halfway through the post. He was probably baiting.
I took a shower in the middle of typing