Ideas for the 2nd awakening

[Omar_QM]

This is an idea I’ve been developing for a couple of weeks now that I think is extremely interesting to discuss with you. You’re free to give your opinion, add to it, correct it, or discard it (don’t be too harsh lol).

To begin, the second awakenings, now with the updated Trello board, are a bit mysterious in terms of what they might be like, given that previously, mages had information indicating they would unlock a third magic, and this has been edited to a simple “???”. So, I took the liberty of theorizing a bit on these aspects. For example, could mages have the option to unlock a third magic as speculated, or could it be an imbuing? But what do I mean by imbuing? Well, the most obvious example we have so far is King Calvus Caesar, the boss of Blasted Rock, who uses Aether Lightning and Metal Magic. In certain attacks, he has been seen launching metal attacks imbued with electrical attacks.

And that got me thinking that it would be quite interesting to see imbuing in other things, for example, Berserker builds being similar to mages’ but obviously with different fighting styles. (A third fighting style, or imbuing, so to speak, Iron Leg attacks with Powder Fist explosions).

For hybrid classes, this would enhance their core mechanic: imbuing abilities, like Savants, Warlocks, or Conjurers (I know there are other hybrid builds, but I’m not very familiar with them, so I welcome your ideas, theories, and opinions). For Warlocks, this would mean your magic attacks, like Blast, would have an effect similar to your fighting style, such as range and speed, plus the slightly lower damage of Boxing.

Conjurers could select which weapon effects to add to their magic attacks. For example, if you use a sword, a heavy hammer, and a pistol or rifle, you could choose which of those three to infuse. Sword infusion would provide more balanced stats and a bleeding effect. Melee weapons would have a larger area of ​​effect, shorter range, and high damage, leaving a stun effect if the attack is strong enough. Pistols or bows would have a piercing effect and a small DoT or bleeding effect, extremely fast and damaging, but with a very small area of ​​effect—something like magic bullets or arrows.

I hope you liked this first idea I’m posting, and feel free to comment, but please be gentle.

[Keiko]

@Omar_QM

For example, could mages have the option to unlock a third magic as speculated, or could it be an imbuing? But what do I mean by imbuing? Well, the most obvious example we have so far is King Calvus Caesar, the boss of Blasted Rock, who uses Aether Lightning and Metal Magic. In certain attacks, he has been seen launching metal attacks imbued with electrical attacks.

Mages are going to get both, and possibly more but so far only a 3rd magic and imbuing magics into each other. This is seen both with King Caesar, as well as Leviathan.

@Omar_QM

And that got me thinking that it would be quite interesting to see imbuing in other things, for example, Berserker builds being similar to mages’ but obviously with different fighting styles. (A third fighting style, or imbuing, so to speak, Iron Leg attacks with Powder Fist explosions).

Yes we’re likely going to get a third fighting style as well as imbuing them into each other.

@Omar_QM

For hybrid classes, this would enhance their core mechanic: imbuing abilities, like Savants, Warlocks, or Conjurers (I know there are other hybrid builds, but I’m not very familiar with them, so I welcome your ideas, theories, and opinions). For Warlocks, this would mean your magic attacks, like Blast, would have an effect similar to your fighting style, such as range and speed, plus the slightly lower damage of Boxing.

Savants currently one of the two 100% confirmed second awakening we know, and they’ll have limitless imbues (ability to imbue multiple things into one thing at once, so like sailor fist with eagle patrimony imbue as well as fire magic or something)

The other 100% confirmed second awakening we know is that warriors will be able to reforge weapons with different items. Vetex gave the example of reforging a katana with a dragon bone to get a Dragon Bone Katana. We don’t know how this would work though.

As for my thoughts on the other classes-

Conjurers get a second magic as well as a minor form of savants second awakening, allowing them to imbue both of their magics into their weapons

Warlocks get either a choice of second magic/second fighting style, or get both, as well as the ability to imbue multiple magics into one fighting style, or imbue a magic and a fighting style into another fighting style. Not sure, just what I imagine.

Paladins get a second magic as well as imbuing multiple magics into relics and multiple relics into magics.

Juggernauts get a second fighting style and be able to imbue multiple relics into their fighting styles.

Knights will get the ability to imbue multiple relics into their weapons as well as maybe a minor version of oracles god soul ability, or they’ll get something entirely unique like warrior (maybe like fused relic/weapons)

Warlords will get a second fighting style as well as imbuing multiple fighting styles into 1 weapon.

I have no idea what oracle could get, maybe combined god souls or something, maybe also an ability to completely negate the downside of unstable god soul imbues? (In addition to getting Zeus’ god soul since im imagining he’s going to give us our second awakening since hes the canonical ancestor to the MC, we’ll likely get a vision from him during a life and death situation and remember some of our past.

[Winged_Jackalope]

These ideas all just kinda sound like having more imbuements, which is neat but not really great especially since it’d make all the classes feel the same.

Except mage, I think spell combining for ultimate arts will be part of their awakening (with the 3rd magic also being part of it). As for hybrids I think it’ll just depend, like magic/strength get a 2nd magic/FS plus something else. We already know what savant is so I’ll just ignore them.

[Keiko]

@Winged_Jackalope

These ideas all just kinda sound like having more imbuements, which is neat but not really great especially since it’d make all the classes feel the same.

well thats what hybrids are, every hybrid revolves around imbuements

as for the mage/berserker ones, imbuement was the only way i could really describe it, but yes its the same principle of combining spells, and berserker is the same except with techniques, and we already know what warrior will be

[Winged_Jackalope]

Iirc the warrior one isn’t confirmed it was just an idea.

Also by making all classes revolve around imbues that also includes pure builds, plus there’s the issue of “why can I imbue magic into weapons at the first awakening but then I have to wait to do vice versa?”

Also also with your ideas most of them from what I understand are just imbue stacking which is gonna be Savant’s whole unique thing.

[Archenhailor]

guessing extra magic/fs/weapon/relic slot and imbuement stacking for many of them

[sacrificehumans]

mages will get the ability to combine 2 magics into a singular attack ass seen with dragons the ability is referred to as origin alongside 3rd magic

Conjurer are getting the ability to reforge any weapon into an arcanium weapon And higly likely get a 2nd magic

[nilexrl]

@Keiko

Mages are going to get both, and possibly more but so far only a 3rd magic and imbuing magics into each other. This is seen both with King Caesar, as well as Leviathan.

Has Vetex outright stated this?

If so are you able to provide evidence, I want to believe you but I just want to be sure.

[Keiko]

@Winged_Jackalope

Iirc the warrior one isn’t confirmed it was just an idea.

well it was said by vetex in a QnA so no reason to think otherwise

@Winged_Jackalope

Also also with your ideas most of them from what I understand are just imbue stacking which is gonna be Savant’s whole unique thing.

it was never said to be something unique to savant, savants first awakening is the exact same as any other hybrid it just expands more because savants have more to work with.

savants imbues will be able to do things that hybrids wont be able to, like imbues from 2 different things like a weapon imbued with magic and a fighting style, whereas my ideas were just like both magics imbued and stuff like that

[Keiko]

@nilexrl

Has Vetex outright stated this?

only thing vetex has outright stated is that second awakenings will be much more powerful than first awakenings, and we do know mages will get a 3rd magic, and there are like 3 new bosses that use fused magic attacks (not just monsters/curse users since leviathan can do it) so its not a stretch to say it’ll also be part of the 2nd awakening, anything past that is just speculation rather than fairly supported guesses

[Winged_Jackalope]

Eh even then imbue stacking would just be kinda lame for every class to get imo. It removes half of the uniqueness of Savants and just seems like it’d be better for each class to get something unique (like forging relics into weapons or something insane like that for knights to match arcanum forging). This is really just a matter of personal opinion on what people prefer though.

[undeadprometheus]

I hope you get to choose between 4 weapons or 2 magic/str on weapon hybrids. For the others idk