We don’t know if all the hints for the baron are from the story, we only know that the baron is able to be revealed now
I said maybe as a suggestion holy shit. I am aware that you need all of the hints. I am proposing the idea that the hints necessary could be provided during the story if the member was to be fought as a boss
I never said they would be split into side quests? Now you’re just making shit up.
The fact that some of the hints are found through side quests prove that some of the bosses aren’t required to be fought. It’s still entirely plausible that the members that were entirely revealed through the story would be required to be fought for the story
According to the screenshot that you posted it states that “some story objectives provide hints towards order members” and “Some order clues will be from side quests, MOST from the story so it’s entirely within the realm of reason that the Baron was revealed using entirely hints from the main story as well as being one of the boss we fight either already or one we will fight in the future
i ain readin all of that 
Bro nobody asked for you to come back and spread your dumbass negativity
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I’m sure this is how it’ll work for some of the members of the order of aesir, but from the two that we know of in the bronze sea it’s only really possible that only one of these two are fought in the story.
I never said that you said they would be split into side quests? I was trying to say that if the order was entirely story bosses then they shouldn’t have some hints needed to be obtained by side quests.
I agree that some of the order might be story bosses IF all of their hints are from story quests, but being required to fight all of the bosses isn’t possible due to the side quest hints.
It’s as likely vetex made a side quest for the Baron in that time, but I agree it’s possible he was revealed only throught story quests. However, I doubt we fight him in the story alredy. I don’t think Argos is the baron because it’s very weird for him to have two different titles at once, especially of ones that are very different in meaning and nobility. It’s possible that the baron is a side boss in the first or is going to be later in the story in the next sea.
Honestly I think it’s more possible that the high lord is in the storyline and I’m starting to agree with your points.
Also I’m starting to wonder why the order’s full name has the aesir in it, as that’s an entire different league of gods from norse mythology
at this point why even bother pointing out the necro post…
i guess ill have to succumb.
We’ve come to a consensus on this regard however,
I also agree that it’s possible that he might’ve made a side quest that provides a hint but the only reason I’m doubtful is that he didn’t mention it, although it could’ve been through one of the 5 side quests on the sky islands.
I personally still see it as possible for argos to be both a general and a Baron. He could be a Baron within the order and that’s how he obtained general status within ravenna(by being appointed by the high lord who is the same rank in bith organizations) but it seems doubtful to me that someone would have the same title in two separate organizations even if they were related to each. I could see it going either way tho.
And I see some of your thinking, and I’m pretty sure I just didn’t explain my thoughts very well so that caused this entire thing
That’s something I’m curious about too. I thought initially that they could try to be instating the Norse gods as the new rulers of the au. But then vetex mentioned somewhere about the only gods in the au being the Greek ones, so it’s not that.
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Maybe he’ll introduce the Norse Gods as just really powerful humans and not gods at all, like how Cthulhu and the Kraken are just powerful mages. I’d really love it if Norse Mythological figures tried to take over the AU or were just in AO in any way
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This may or may not make sense but maybe he is the Baron of the Order. Not an actual Baron, that or Elius is the Baron. The option would be that the High Lord is the Baron. But I don’t think the Baron is an actual Baron of their own kingdom
Elius can’t be the baron as you fight him like 6 parts after you obtain the order tab
You mean that Ravenna is a kingdom, right? I believe that the Order soley influences Ravenna and dictates it’s government at its lesiure.
I’m saying separate organizations for lack of a better term about what the order is, but that’s what they are.
Ravenna is a kingdom sure, and we don’t know the exact relationship between Ravenna and the order
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True.
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Nothing else needs to be said
I can confirm that the Order and Ravenna are related
I haven’t played AO yet but I don’t think they’re related