Is Vetex Serious?

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thread number one billion on how dogshit the PvP in this game has become, but I don’t even care because this is the worst I’ve ever seen PvP at.

after I’m done writing this, I’m going to switch to PvE mode because bounty hunting is the biggest waste of time I’ve ever seen. I’m more confused than anything else, who let this happen? does the balancing team just not give a shit anymore, anyone can do whatever they want? Ive had multiple instances where im just hanging out at some island, and all of a sudden the biggest tub of lard pulls up on his 3k hour snow metal mage and does 50% of my health with the most demonic movestack ive seen in my life, with gear pulled straight from the fibers of the hair on satans asshole. what the fuck?

i play a plasma powderfist savantlord, not the best build in the world obviously, but that doesnt matter because i find it fun and enjoy playing it. and in all honesty, it’s not terrible, i do alright damage but most of my stats are put into size and defense, landing me at about 3k hp, which sounds reasonable until you find out theres mages pressing one button and doing 500 damage instantly, what is even the point? now obviously, you might ask why i’m even playing with pvp on if i dont enjoy it, and thats because i DO enjoy it, i tend to lean more to grinding NPCs simply because i like doing treasure charts and are more plentiful. i kept pvp on because before full release, i was usually able to hold my own against other players. but not anymore, apparently. the days of enjoying a quick, friendly fight with another players is dead and sentenced to the depths of hell.

so, how did we get here? i remember it like it was yesterday, only 2 years ago the biggest threat in pvp was a kid using metal pulsar. over the course of those years, there has been a powercreep, it’s a game that revolves around progression after all, which is to be expected, but not to this degree. some of these mages dont even have to aim, they just press a button and reap 30k bounty straight from my heart. and then on top of that, i get sent to prison for ten minutes, and during that ten minutes, a totally different person breaks me out of prison and then proceeds to kill me in ten seconds.

so now ive got a question for high level pvp players (like one mil+), why do you even do it? like it really cant be that enjoyable to hunt people when you just kill them in 30 seconds. and to other people with similar experiences, how do you view it? am i just being a whiney bitch, or are my complaints valid? dont just say “DURR DURR TURN OFF PVP IDOT!" please be smart, i know its hard for AO players to do that but pls try.

oh and obviously this isnt vetexs fault, im just poking fun in the title, however this IS absolutely the fault of the balancing team not having a single clue how game design works and instead nerfing builds they lose against and buffing the ones they play.

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After reading this I’m glad you’ve actually spoken something fairly truthful even with it being a rant and not just generic “durr durr pvp is bad these days” you actually bring up good points here though.

holy true, I spawned at ravenna and the first thing I saw was a metal mage who was waiting at the spawn there for 10 minutes using pulsar the second he saw me join. Keep in mind I didn’t even have much rep at all he just did it because “durr durr funny clip montage”

It’s like this mix of it being a rant but also valid so it’s fair enough. I’ve had enough negative pre-toggle pvp experiences that made me want to jump out of my seat in rage and you are correct about the balancing team. They’ve created a whole AO class system with fame meta mages at the top and everything else (particularly strength builds) at the bottom. The devs get a lot of hate for this but they just implement it, not actually think of the ideas. Hating on the devs for it just leads to more negativity, for example moochezz got a shit load of hate towards him that vetcord had to have a 5 minute slow timer in general because of the warlord “balance change”. It’s pretty clear the balance team absolutely despises any strength related build, the warlord butcher, thermo fist is the middle child that gets either: A: Ignored at best. B: Thrown into the river styx and left to drown. I’m a positive mage rep player that’s a pver myself and I enjoy all the spells but I just feel bad for the people who do try to actually pvp in AO in a non-toxic manner. Rare coming from me who’s dealt with pvpers ganking me non-stop. Literally before full-release I checked every single player’s stats and always had an escape plan for each island just to spite gankers.

bingo.

the friendliest pvper encounter in AO I ever had was a guy who was trying to hunt me offered me to a fair-fight 1 on 1. I was annoyed after losing but that was prob a year or two ago and if I did it again I’d probably be grateful and give the guy some galleons for his civility. It’s that rare few in AO that are just pretty chill that make the community saveable sometimes, that guy was a good apple. But in general man good luck, I’m a pver myself but for non-mages I’m sure it’s shit in the pvp scene right now.

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Fun fact, the balancing team was never meant to balance PvE, they balance based on PvP exclusively, anything that happens in PvE is none of their concern. (the entire savantlord situation - although justified - was caused by them beating in PvP.)

And I fucking hate it.
Either don’t do such bizarre changes, or keep the changes to Elysium or some shit, it’s getting ridiculous

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I’m luckily a PvE player first, but I call back to one time where the SAME GUY tried to attack my ship without looking at the name or anything, I had to call him out before he even said sorry.

They want to destroy first, there’s no real punishment for mindlessly attacking anyone you come across, it’s such an annoying PvP system.

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i dont think that vetex is raeli

okay now to read the post itself
I do agree that mages have some absurdly op spells (mostly pulse and annihilation or wtvr) which turn actual fun fights into “press 1234 to win”

I dont have much to say really since I dont like the current pvp (although I did run away from a bounty hunter once WE love hover spell)

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Why you cant be both? Anyway your complaints is valid.

Wild title still. I almost say I agree with you if I dont read your title.

Anyway, I think we need to have diifferent stats for PVP and PVE. By different stats its basically combat tagged stats. Allow us to use the most unhinged build on NPC but keep the balance on PVP. Let duel have the option to have ravenna size pulsar and smash.

Like prolly power from gear suppose to give 100, make it 50 during PVP or something. Idk. The only problem is this might kill the pvp entirely. Its easier to implement and control though.

The other is doing a lot of research and fricking spending time thinking (Balancing team?) which I dont think Balancing team willing to do. I believe there can be middle ground for these builds where we might have S tier builds but the worst prolly be S- Tier

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these are valid points but why did you ask “is vetex Israeli?” like what does it even mean if he is

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“not the best build in the world”

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israeli is the new buzzword to use for something you dont like

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vetexgames arguing with his chud fanbase but mid argument his contract with satanyahu for making good games expires and he lowkirksteinuenly drags vetex’s soul to hell for eternal damnation

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this could either mean its complete shit or underground meta and im gonna assume youre calling it shit lol

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Not only that mages are op as hell, but all the other builds are either neglected or don’t recieve as much attention compared to mage. These are the situations for the full stat
Oracle: Beaten up, thrown around, and in the trash.

Mage: Favorite child

Warrior: 2nd with most attention, more weapons, more skills

Berserker: Actually got attention?? Two new fighting styles and 8 new techniques is quite an incredible feat for berserkers, given they are the classic forgotten child, now that title goes to oracle.

To be honest what this game needs is to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up, most of the stuff this game has is either bad, unfair or broken.

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honestly I just suffer from the lag, I legit just can’t play my actual favorite game on this damn platform.

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calling on you for calling plasma savantlord not the best build in the world

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oh that too, i forgot to mention that actually. my pc can run games like no man’s sky on a smooth 60 fps but the moment an ash mage presses one key im down to 10 fps

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sorry i dont really keep up with metas i didnt know it was any good lol, what fighting styles would you recommend to go with it?

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every fighting style is OP dont let someone whisper in ur ear and say at least one of them sucks but im pretty sure plasma + sailor = scalding

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truthnuke, i might go vanishing style though since its the only one i havent tried yet

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fair enough, it is the one that has absurd damage

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hes from transyvania or whatever its called so im pretty sure hes a vampire