Lightning Conj (Again)

I’m back, 8 months later, finally going to make the lightning conj file.

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Build 1

Gear Builder

Above is the build I’m thinking of going

Build 2

Gear Builder

Above is my old build in this post: [ Lightning conj ]

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Build Comparison

Compared to my old build, it has:

  • Less speed
    • Don’t probably need as much as I thought due to lightning conj being fast
  • Less power
    • Low power affinity makes high power unnecessary
  • More defense
    • Spare stat sink, though it gets less efficient with more, it’s a better stat sink than power/speed (imo)
  • More supplementary stats (size, intensity)
    • Small amounts of size makes my attacks a lot more consistent, very good for a conj, especially when I’m used to fire conj with 10 size (though I use spear and 150m, fire is big)
    • Intensity is quite useful, and by using Amelia cloak over something else, I lose maybe ~10 EP of other stats as a trade for 21 intensity
  • Less insanity
    • By using I2 + W3, I practically have I0 while having better stats than an I0 build. (I’m about halfway between I0 & I1 for free)
Rant about why I'm not using I1

Before you say that I should just suck it up and use I1, I’ve used insanity for probably over 2k hours as a casual pvper and I’m sick of its effects, I shouldn’t need the game to constantly pester me for slightly better stats

  • Insanity fire on I2 is OBSCENELY LOUD, I know that I1 doesn’t have it but I2 is cancer
  • Constant filters on your game makes it hard to improve and focus at pvp
  • Random audio and notification spam that makes you look at the bottom left of your screen every 2 seconds
  • All this for 10 more attack speed

I’m honestly considering putting I2/W3 on my main file, though I’ll probably just get a spare SW helm without the insanity and suck up the lower stats if people jump me.
Note that even if I2/W3 wasn’t more efficient than I0, I’d still use I0 on this build

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I really like this build, it’s expensive but nothing 6 Perfect Gilded L5 auras can’t fix…
I’m gonna make the build and then level up the file, because the lightning conj is in a playthrough with my friend (we’ll finish eventually)


how…

if you hate insanity, just dont use it

its getting nerfed in FR anyway

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Agree with post above, but instead of using 3 warding scrolls for stats that may not benefit (since you know, the whole stat rundown thing) just get the potion, so much easier

agree with the post above as well

I mean yeah, but the problem with the potion is
I’m rlly casual
which means I spend more time not pvping than pvping
so constantly using a potion to make over 1/2 my gameplay normal is much less preferable than having a viable build that has no insanity
also that would take up a potion slot

If you’re gonna go insanity you have to mix and match gems so you actually get the stat(s) you need and not that, specially since you don’t have enough to actually benefit from it. If you want more speed while still keeping defense just grab another scroll. Not warding. It’s just a waste for builds outside the DS.

Idk what you mean by potion slots, if you mean positive effects and their limit that can easily be fixed by just… sucking up i2 or fixing the build. You can get more power at the cost of more defense even without the annoying effects. I3 is where it becomes rather unplayable, and I agree I’d find it a pain…

But regardless, if you’re casual you needn’t use it that much. Or just i1

i like it! just do be mindful that attack speed will be replaced with dexterity coming full release

i think its a good idea to keep a i2 version of your build, but have the slightly weaker virtuous set/no insanity set on the side for when youre playing casual. when youre bounty hunting, switch to the insanity set. when youre pve-ing, switch to the normal set
ive been needing to make a set like that actually as well thinking about it now

hope the loadout gamepass won’t be bugged in full release like it has been since it came out, i heard it was getting fixed but dont think ive seen it stated anywhere

i got a build idea

What does this mean
I’m getting power from the insanity
did the gear builder bug? Look at the image, the link can be inconsistent

if you’re saying that 20 size isn’t enough to benefit from, I run 10 size on my fire conj and it feels so much better than none; in fact smaller amounts of stats can yield better results due to it not having to deal with falloff (although, minmaxing one stat can cover the weaknesses presented by lack of another, as seen in hitscan speed builds or overwhelming visuals on size builds)
This is why I love hybrids though

idk what exactly they meant but i believe theyre referring to having insanity on other pieces

on things like amelia cloak or sophragos, you have to use jewels to displace the atlantean to get more power

I literally said why I hate I2
I literally cannot tab out of the game with I2 without my eardrums exploding from I2 fire until I move my camera
seriously why is it so loud
I’m so tired of having to deal with insanity effects, and spamming warding potions is a stupid solution; unnecessary costs, constant use of it can get annoying, getting reagents, taking up a potion slot, all for something you can just choose to not use in a build.
Also I’m purposefully keeping my power low and defense high due to lightning scaling poorly with power. The power I get from atlantean essence is the stat easiest gotten by the accessory I have atlantean, and the final power is what I want

Warding 3 + Insanity 2 is more efficient than Warding 0 + Insanity 0

Yeah but I wanted some size & if I wanted to get speed from the Amelia Cloak, I’d have to use 2 agates / malachites regardless

My eyes as a gear builder have been cursed

yeah I might get a spare 3 accessories that just don’t have virtuous
and maybe a cheap leggings like cernyx that I can just remove one of the insanity with

wait how is it bugged
it works fine for me other than not equipping when you change data of a piece in it

3 t2s and insanity 2 is more efficienct than 3 warding 2 insanity

my loadout just straight up doesnt work at all even if i fully unequip and ive saved the right build multiple times on it

Yeah
you have to deal with insanity 2 though so not really a fair comparison