I generally post them on Vetcord so I might as well post them here
I made Google docs to keep up with Lost magics and Ancient magics mentioned by Vetex and confirmed to still exist, currently the only one who fate’s is still unknown is Sound as of V1.17.3 
There is a total of 24 known Lost magics to exist and 12 Ancient magics to exist
These are images updated as of 17/3/2025, I’ll eventually link the sources on the rightmost part of the table but I would have to gather around 45 images
stardust magic is still a mix of sun, so here’s to hoping sun is at least 1.0x speed 
All custom magics have highly inflated affinities, do not take them as a reference point for the magic components
I know that man 
just let me have hope
Or is it…
the ancient lightning magic guy was a curse user?
Nah man that’s pretty fast.
Consider how absurdly big the sun is compared to earth and think that it only takes 27x as long for something hundreds of times bigger than earth to rotate.
I’m fairly certain it was mentioned that cloud magic fell out of use, even if a curse exists. This may have been from WoM days though.
no, magic user
Oh my bad, thought Fulke was a curse user
just because it’s bigger doesn’t mean that it spins faster
it’s still only 1x in 27 days
Iris I don’t think you understand how rotational velocity works.
828,000 Km/H >>>>> 1,670Km/H
I think the sun might be a little bit faster.
(admittedly data is really inconsistent here but the difference is so massive that it really doesn’t make that much of a difference)
If you have two spheres and one of them is exactly double the diameter of the other, then to spin at the same speed, the bigger one will need to spin exactly twice as fast.
(The distance between each point is exactly double the smaller sphere)
Fulke was not a curse user, he had Ancient Lightning magic.
I read that secret note again very recently, it outright said it was the magic and not curse.
Nah man I can spin around in a couple seconds so the sun is really slow If it does the same in 27 days
Yep that’s definitely how it works.
I knew you’d understand 
it depends
