Lost magics vs Base magics

Not really, they’re all the same or less negative than fire’s

bad idea

arcanium has been defined as just normal metal mixed with radiation containing sea salt, i don’t think vetex would fall for the “uranium kills you if you touch it” meme

Yea. I see.

This is why vetex aint allowing magic suggestions because of idiots like me who got no idea how to balance a magic.

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and you’re completely okay with this

where’d he say that

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like honestly whats the point of picking any base magic if there’s stuff that directly outclasses it

like may as well run :lightning_magic_var2: :shadow_magic: :wood_magic_var1: or whatever random ass combination and then get lost magics that synergize and we gucci

who are you talking to

it’s a lost magic, doesn’t necessarily affect base magic choices much. It’s like saying nobody will go snow cause blizzard magic exists or nobody will go lightning cause electron and blaze exist. Lost magics are supposed to be more powerful than base magics

Yeah because you replace your base with your lost, so if I have fire and find a flare scroll I’m basically getting a direct upgrade to my magic

all of you I assume

so with that logic, I can make something that makes its predecessor absolutely useless, and it’s balanced, because it’s “rare”

i think when you hash it out they should be more powerful but idk if a lost magic should be significantly more powerful in everything but a single aspect.
on that vein how much lower is flare’s impact damage than fire?

you know what let’s make a new lost for uhhh wood magic called “nature” magic and uuhhh it’s just wood but it has 5.0x speed and 100.0x damage and uuhhh it deals 458783243892648765248735623 DPS per tick yes very balanced real

Losts being more powerful doesn’t mean base magics are useless, you still use base magics for the first 300-600 levels of the game. Lost magics are simply a power up.

We don’t know anything about flare’s stats, other than its synergies and the fact that it has a stackable DoT

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Does it not make sense why a magic that requires 600 stat points would be more powerful than a magic unlocked at level 1? Obviously lost magics will be balanced relative to each other and the losts of other stat routes

oh yeah and nature magic deals 60000087545768098765467890% more damage against burning and scorched and sandy targets and also now it deals 9876543567890876543567890876543567890876543567890876543567890-987654356780-9876545678909876543567890-987654% more damage against frozen

ah, in that case i’ll just assume it’s a good amount lower

bro

I don’t get why they have to be so much more significantly OP than basics tho this is not fair idc if they’re “rarer”