Misleading Treasure Charts: A Theory

[Waping]

i aint reading allat so
the ground type is the cheat code that most people forget
the elevation is rarely useful. in fact its almost only good when you forget to check the ground type, with a “sea level” reminding you its in sand at shell island or whatever
the distance is the center of the island to the edge of the island name’s radius so for any non circular island halfway is almost the entire island

[Dr.Archipelago]

I dunno what its all about, once you understand how charts work, they are easy to solve even with chart-solver.

[Catean]

I’m basically just trying to figure out why charts are sometimes misleading.

I don’t have much trouble with charts usually, this is just a guess about the way vetex coded it.

[DespicablBanana]

charts are usually p easy, especially with the HD map quality now making it easier to parse different terrains and elevations, the only problem I’ve seen is that in Ravenna SE, there’s some terrain that’s hidden under other terrain that needs to be destroyed, and some people have gotten some treasure charts that lead to those spots

[spongjy]

palo town is an absolute offender of misleading treasure charts

(the location of the treasure)

i had to go under palo just to get this chest

[Catean]

Wait, what?
Ravenna has parts hidden under other ones?

[Catean]

Is that in the secret area

[spongjy]

It’s in a secret area, but not the secret area.

besides, the secret doesn’t have spots i could dig in, as far as i’m concerned

[Catean]

huh, I can’t say I recall any sand parts there besides maybe the cannon fist mentor
but that’s not cannon fist guy’s spot, right?

[spongjy]

There’s a bunch of rocks at the cannon fist mentor’s area that hide the room. The treasure spot was at the far edge of the hidden room. As far as I’m concerned, you weren’t even supposed to go in here w/ the absence of treasure.

[Catean]

my goodness
I did not even know that existed

[DespicablBanana]

[Catean]

what the hell
why does that exist

[gre3ncell]

Why Vetex WHY???

[DeltaSquad]

craziest one i had recently was something among the lines of. Halfway west from the centre of ravenna

theres not alot of diggable parts but ok, there are places to still dig.
after using marking shovel, i cover everything in that green area, even the grass ontop of the houses. but sometimes the finder isnt super accurate and i always do more than what is shown. and i still dont find it. Istg i looked everywhere, even the grass parts below and under that green zone.

[Catean]

Guess what I found today

[hanmbi]

@Catean

Distance is how far the part is from the island’s center. “few steps”, “halfway”, or “edge”.
Now, it’s mostly likely determined by a radial check from the island’s center coordinate, but very commonly, the text is deceiving. At Ravenna, halfway is near the edge. At Cernunno, a similar case exists. At Palo, I once found a few paces chart that was on the shore. I recall seeing a Thorin chart with a similar problem. But why? Why does this happen?

at Shell Island, edge means the outer islands

@Catean

The material of the part is always correct, as is obvious, and the height is generally accurate. While “sea level” and “decent height” are a little misleading sometimes, I believe it’s based on the part’s y-level, and determined based on preset values of height. So if the part is above one height and below another, it gets categorized as a certain height.

ravenna sea level could either mean the literal sand, or the ledge above said ‘sand’ where 90% of the players walk
also for some reason treasure can be buried IN THE CASTLE’S GARDEN

@Catean

That means, on a part that is particularly long or large, the center is a far offshoot from where you’re digging. If this is how charts are generated, that means that the relative position is from the part’s center to the island, not the part as a whole. That is why sometimes the direction can be so inaccurate; large parts that extend far underground have a center that is far from where you’re digging. The game determines it as “halfway”, for example, but the only revealed section is near the edge.

i dont get it

[hanmbi]

tried the ‘garden’?

[spongjy]

yep, it was at a very tiny corner of that place where i’d found the treasure (leftwards at the end of that hidden place you’ve found)

i get that people hate treasure hunting in big places like ravenna, shell island, and frostmill but none of those places have earned my hate as much as palo