Morden Vs Allanon

Who y’all got? Personally my money is on Allanon cause he’s got far better mobility, can heal, and does some pretty crazy damage, but apparently Morden has like 6000 health and can do 600 damage per attack so I dunno for sure. You can use gameplay and/or lore for your arguments.

Check the win record of Magic V. Curse and you’ll get your answer

morden is much edgier and can kill his opponents

I know Allanon doesn’t dress edgy like Morden, but I feel like last we saw him Allanon was way more edgy than Morden

I would like to say that modern would be like “i don’t wanna fight u”, but he broke his vow of nonviolence to slam jam some poor random vikings to death, so he probably could clobber allenol.

also allanon isn’t edgy, he’s traumatized. edgy people poorly pretend to be traumatized.

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By this logic, Morden is also isn’t edgy, since if you look at everything that’s happened to him.

  1. Abducted from whatever life he was living previously to be experimented on by a shadowy organization.
  2. Made connections during said experimentation and escaped, only for both friends to end up either dead, or not remembering who he is.
  3. Sending his only living friend away in hopes of them both being able to live a better life.
  4. Having to live on his own with the weight of his experience for at least a few months until the Sailor’s Lodge arc.
  5. Infiltrates a “secure” military stronghold
  6. Coming across a dying man who basically pulls a “help us Obi-Wan, you’re our only hope,” and now has the weight of The War Sea’s on his shoulder in order to stop Ravenna from obtaining the Death Curse.
  7. Has to race Ravenna to said Curse, and take it upon himself, which how he explains it was a horrifying experience for him.
  8. Return to Ravenna only to find his friend nowhere to be found for a month, and said friend has been labeled a terrorist.
  9. By the time they do find Silas, they now have to fight the entire Ravenna Castello including Julian, which leaves so damaged as to be unable to walk, and needing to rest for three days.
  10. Getting dragged into a war he directly caused, under the guise of mercanaries, knowing that the moment their involvement is revealed they will have no allies within the nearest seas.
  11. Having to live with the Death Curse and the ramifications being a Curse Bear has on both physiology and psychology.

I could go on, but I think that’s enough to show that Morden is in fact traumatized, and not just an edge lord. Technically speaking no character in AO is an edge lord since we haven’t met anyone with the title Marquess.

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Morden wins, it’s just a matter of when he stops being a square. Best Allanon can do is get some damage in if Morden’s trying to not use the Death Curse and trying to play peacemaker, but he’s not going to get the win before Morden decides to send him to his wife.

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Well we call Morden edgy because his subpar character writing makes him seem unreasonable.

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True.

Anyway my two cents on the actual debate is that Morden should in all likelihood come out on top, if only due to his Curse. Granted Allanon may mitigate the wither affect from the Death Curse, but I’m fairly sure Morden would have more magic strength even before obtaining his Curse. This is due to the Order’s experiment, which given their stated goal, may have had to do with increasing magic potential. This is also supported by the fact all the subjects they used were legacies and mages. So given that the Death Curse is able to instantly kill those weaker than the user, it’s likely Allanon, even with his Mageskin disease, is weaker than a Curse Bearer who’s been experimented on extensively. Thus as soon as the Curse energy hits Allanon the Fallen Prince will, fall.

yeah this is the real damn problem that everything we learn about Morden in the game is never shown to us in any meaningful way, like in his journal or whatever happened between us going to skyhall and back being very partially mentioned in that singular inn scene. I wish Vetex just allowed us to spend more time with his characters because we have to basically dig for his characters’ motivations and such instead of us seeing it in the main storyline.

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where’d you get this info from?

It’s just kinda observable how much he has from his NPC, though that’s probably an informed guess.

morden no diffs allanon

is this ebk

morden > main character >= allanon id say lorewise

He has it during the fight at the Fenrir, but I only saw it through a screenshot from someone else and now I can’t find it so maybe I’m just crazy

I saw it too

I have more attachment to redwake people than to morden.

Yeah right i forgot that both iris and silas turn to morden when empress nilah askes who of us are the strongest.

I just did the fight and he was doing like 642 damage or somewhere in the 600s i forgot but I didnt see his health, Iris was also doing massive aoe attacks too. Esmellrelda had no ai and Callahan was pretty weak actually.