One of the worse balance changes i ever saw

I love this change
(no sarcasm)

Exotic gems are almost useless now :sob:… and i mostly used SW boots only for the increased atk spd

Sunken warrior was straight up an upgrade of Ceneryx. And jewel crafting is such a grindy, garbage system. Plus, we’re already dealing with stat imbalance and ridiculous abilities.

Unironcally, I don’t mind these at all.

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TRUE dont get me wrong it sucks to have rare items be useless and get outclassed but any less incentive to do long dragged out grind is a good thing for the majority of the playerbase who dont have the time to grind

also youre the first person ive seen who understands how bad gem crafting is, the extra stat customization is cool but having to level it makes it pretty much impossible to make new files and builds without having to swap to your main to set up their armor

i agree with the gem crafting

this

It would be better if we could just have the maxed out gem stats at the cost of an additional lower-tier gem or ingredient. Like seriously, jewels are stupid weak at lower jewelcrafting levels, and basically a second set of armor when they’re maxed out.

i cannot find this message where was it posted
edit: the image is pinned in balancecord general. the actual message from vetex is probably hidden in some level locked or hidden vetcord channel

Balance team when the level cap raises by 11 levels (they are gonna nerf all substats by 50% so we don’t actually get any stronger)

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That’s the basic of MMORPGs, more effort equals more power. Aside from that, full sunken armor doesn’t instantly win you any fights

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-69 size and plus 74 hp. well, at least i don’t have it as bad as the agility builds.

I’d say that the jewel changes is just glorified substat efficiency nerf. I’ll ask around the balancecord if they’re planning on lowering agility requirement for tp dashes/leap

Nvm I did some calculations myself and it only requires like 28% of total build efficiency ( currently it’s 27.16% on sunken armour)

However, the allocation for other substats aside from agility will drop down to only 14% compared to the current ~24%. 70 bonus atk speed is kinda a lot, I’d take them over 23 power any day

gg gank lost

Its so over

Pretty sure it still will be lol
Cernyx is also rare, right? The nerf affects all rare items so they’re both getting nerfed in the same way

I tried complaining about it and all the reason they gave me was
“uh jsut because sunkens are rare doesn’t mean its nerf-proof”
“just look at #doc-changes im too lazy to explain why we did this”

Like people devoted entire lives to getting sunkens, and then you just straight up change their stats? I swear balance team gets dumber by the second. Watch them buff Sunken by 100% next update, then nerf it to the ground again for “balancing”.

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honestly. IF YOU ASK ME, IN MY OPINION. the balancing document is over complicated. There are some changes that sound very reasonable and actually have an impact.

Dodge reflex nerf
Attack speed nerf
ethereal flash, brutal rush buff
making it so attack speed increased tick rate dmg of sunken staff

but then there’s stuff majority of people were fine with but it got changes anyway that no one asked for.



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that synergy nerf is for thermo fist. I understand some strong things can slip under the radar but shit, what the hell is 2.5% going to do? All of this just seems like a desperate attempt to reach an unrealistic perfect equilibrium where everything is on equal footing.

I get the exotic gem nerf because its to a prevent power creep so players don’t have absurd stats too early in the game, but it just seems so far distant in the future. Why not instead nerf it when it actually becomes a problem and put the time and energy into balancing/comparing the things that have problems now.

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God forbid we give players an actual sense of progression as they level up and gain rarer gear

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who on earth was complaining about sand and snow? and I thought we had finally reached an acceptable point with shadow, why is it getting further nerfs?

Honestly I’ve just stopped trying to understand most of the balance changes made

Balancers are just monkeys on typewriters at this point

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