[Opinion/Vent] The Planned TGR Update will fail to draw people into playing the game in the long term. Here is why

[Level]

Bro you just admitted to venting kinda sus. smh voted.

[BlazeUnicron]

How the fuck can you say PvP is not an objective for vet when he’s literally adding one of the most game changing additions to it in the update that you hail as “Just for lore and environment”. Making abilities not just something you get from leveling up but something you earn by other means is huge, and there’s literally like 30 different ideas for what they can be on the trello.

[G0d_z]

@idiot

This is exactly in line with my point with Vetex overcomplicating things between his changes to his games. He adds unnecessary things that may seem cool on paper, but limit the development of the full game.

Mutation was planned in the lore which is what the new magics are (like *plasma,)( the community was asking for something like this for a while now and now we got it, nobody is really complaining except for a few people which there opinions don’t matter at this point

[G0d_z]

@idiot

The PVP system is clearly not a objective for Vetex

Because that’s not the objective for the game really.

[Level]

Ik i’m gonna get a flag for this, I can feel it but what happened to cum magic

[idiot]

@BlazeUnicron

How the fuck can you say PvP is not an objective for vet

From my perspective, PVP has been poorly managed, and that in turn reflects upon how much attention Vetex gives towards the topic. Please see the main post to see why I believe it is poorly managed. These “game changing updates” have been skimmed over by Vetex, and he only admits upon how he should have been updating them, but there are no plans to directly add new content within the TGR update within the plan thread that he has posted.

@Vetex

Instead, I should have been adding the features that players want the most, such as magic weapons, fighting styles, higher level caps, and more story.

This is the only mention of new content, and it can only be inferred that he would be adding new stuff in regards to PVP.

[G0d_z]

Heres a gift

[Level]

@idiot

directly add new content within the TGR update within the plan thread that he has posted.

Boats are content. Islands are content. A linear story is content. Wdym no content???

[BlazeUnicron]

It’s pretty unreasonable to think that him saying he should add something means he won’t just because you don’t think he thinks it’s important

[BlazeUnicron]

wtf howd you find that pic of me

[BlazeUnicron]

Literally in the post near the bottom in “Other” he says “The addition of the first Lost Spell Scrolls, which are rarely obtained items that allow you to unlock a new spell type for the magic it is assigned to.”

[TheoreticalExistence]

@idiot

however, the abilities that you unlock are few in number and lacks variety (see section 3. for further details on why this is a problem

Vetex is adding lost spells in the TGR update, more unique spells that you can assign to any single magic to get that spell type for it.
As the lost spells trello card has been archived, I don’t know what exactly it would bring, but I do know that the ideas that were there were… quite interesting.

@idiot

From my interpretation of the planned TGR Update post, Vetex seems to be doing this update completely due to recreating the world for the sake of optimization on impulse and is not adding to the game in any sort in regards to the combat aspect of the game.

Did you not read the TGR details post at all???
That’s all I’ve gotta say about this one.

@idiot

Seriously Vetex, is this a fighting game or a fairy tale book

Looks like both to me.

@idiot

• The combat system lacks variety. Spamming the same old 4 abilities over and over again is NOT entertaining.
• The map is way too big. It is hard to navigate with friends and PVP is difficult because players are so far apart.
• There is no reason to PVP. People just rk because there’s nothing else to do.
• Vetex wastes his time writing the lore, while the actual game world has barely anything to do for the average player.
• There is nothing to do for Max Levels apart from PVP, and from the points above, there’s basically no functioning PVP system at all.

1: I shall repeat, lost spells.
2: Nah, the map isn’t nearly as gargantuan as you’re trying to make it sound, “oh no I have to travel a couple minutes to get from point A to point B”. Also we don’t even know how big the TGR map will even be.
3: Guilds need infamy. Infamy comes from RKing. Notice that most RKers are guild members who only attack other guilds. See the connection?
4: Lore is a big part of worldbuilding unless you’re lazy about it. What on earth is an adventure RPG without a story?
5: Well yes, can’t disagree with you there… except there is a functioning pvp system, while it isn’t perfect, it is most certainly there and often used.

@idiot

I really hope that Vetex reads this because currently the update doesn’t, in my opinion, attract new players and veteran players alike

That might be the case if you’re one of those people who can write multiple full paragraphs purely on PvP instead of literally any other aspect of the game.

[Pedro]

there’s a literall update on the trello dedicated to combat

[G0d_z]

killerboss had spoken. Amen

[Morden]

Latom

no one can find this hidden easter egg uwu

[G0d_z]

@TheoreticalExistence

Well yes, can’t disagree with you there… except there is a functioning pvp system, while it isn’t perfect, it is most certainly there and often used.

Actually not really, I mean bounty hunting would exist

[TheoreticalExistence]

Bounty hunting does not exist, but there is a functioning system for pvp.

[G0d_z]

But it will exist

[TheoreticalExistence]

Indeed it will.

[MmadProgrammer]

@idiot

The combat system lacks variety. Spamming the same old 4 abilities over and over again is NOT entertaining.

I believe Vetex will add new abilities including more weapons, etc., so it should have the same variety as AA if not more.