Here’s how I see it:
I see you defending a gamepass to circumvent a feature.
This gamepass is paying to play the game less because you’re skipping the bad parts.
(said bad parts are a problem that should be fixed, not paywalls with extra steps)
This leads me to believe one of a few possibilities.
A: You’ve never interacted with the ‘bad parts’.
B: You are a yes-man/biased.
C: You simply fail to see the issue for one of a variety of reasons.
I decided it was probably C but not throw the others off the table yet, so I asked you to explain why the problem needed to exist in the first place.
In this case, why does magic need to be complicated in the first place to justify vetex wanting it to be miserable for reasons other than spite.
I mostly agreed with your answer.
Yes, lore does explain why magic changing shouldn’t be something you can just do every 30 seconds, and the gameplay should suit that.
However, this only goes to a certain point.
If the gameplay is being actively harmed by lore-focused decisions then the lore should take a step back.
The solution is absolutely not charging $20 to get around a problem that never needed to exist.
I do believe that vetex’s design of essence was made with spite towards the community, otherwise he’d be more reasonable and understanding about it.
I also believe that, intentionally or not, this design vetex is implementing is predatory, and if vetex doesn’t want that label, he should do something about it before it ends up ingame and solidifies it.
Like I said before, this could be fully unintentional, but its vetex’s responsibility to address his mistake if he made a mistake, and equally so to handle the consequences if it is not.
Well, there’s a much more clear-cut “pay to win” advantage that’s already being added - and can be directly compared to being born with a silver spoon - the starter pack, which gives a massive head start on switching up builds to follow new metas
The problem is that the answers suck.
Pay $20, grind for 10+ hours for something that doesn’t even necessarily stat buff you, or restart your file from scratch.
All of these options are horrible!
i still am almost certain it doesnt take this long with good efficiency, as ive said before ive found 2 hecates before and the total time it took for both was well under 10 hours
Honestly if what fluect was hinting at earlier was improvements to the system then frankly all he had to do was announce that alongside this and people would be happy lol.
It appears you are confused about the reason for people’s negative reaction to the magic change micro (I’m going to be honest, it’s starting to look a lot more like a macro) transaction, I’ll try to use food as analogy and hope it clears some things up:
0. There is no food
People want to eat food
You give them hard-tack (technically, it’s edible, although it has bland taste and is extremely uncomfortable to eat)
People don’t want to suffer every time they have to eat
you offer to give them a loaf of bread in exchange for $20
These are all reasonable points but it’s still not getting at the point with the depth that I desire.
I will say I was 100% treating your point as a simplified caricature but I think that based on some of the stuff you’ve said and the fact that you are defending the obvious. Whatever is obvious will be accepted unquestionably but that shouldn’t always be the case. Therefore it should be evaluated and you should consider the cases where you are wrong.
This isn’t one-sided either. You can evaluate the price and find that it is obviously ridiculous (I think?) but not-so-obviously is it motivated by factors other than spite. Recursively questioning stuff tends to help outline all possible probabilities.
“Why is it priced so high?” → Probably spite
“Why do I think it’s spite?” → Either bias or situational context
“Is there more situational context?” → There could be but it needs to be proven
“Is that bias valid?” → Maybe given Vetex’s general disposition
Likewise you can apply this to other things too that suit your point more.
“Is Fluect a yes-man?” → Find proof
“Does he defend Vetex a lot?” → Yes
“Does he disagree with Vetex a lot?” → Find proof
“Is there a pattern behind what things he defends?” → Find proof
I think I am a yes-man for Vetex’s reputation because I want to see the game succeed and don’t want to see him get annoyed, but not for his decisions (also because I want to see this game succeed).
It explains the discrepancy behind why I’ll defend him for the motivation behind the change but not the change itself.
