Is it stupid to think that AO is a pvp only game?
You are putting words in my mouth. AO isnāt a PVP only game, itās a PVE game with PVP aspects. However, unlike PVE, if you literally avoid PVP like itās the plague, REFUSING TO EVEN SPAR WITH FRIENDS, you are shooting yourself in the foot. I guess youāll just be relying on agility and potions the whole time, and in the end I canāt be angry because thatās just how the game is.
I sure do love this feature.
PvP is nothing more than a fun distraction and a measuring contest. Nothing more, nothing else.
Deckhands should not be at that turf, It should be at pve turf. If I have to bust myself on an niche game aspect I do not care at all then I aināt a part of it no more.
Not everyone is pvper, nor they have the time to become one. And besides I already gotten them, but seeing others who want legendaries cannot get them because now they have to force themselves on an game aspect they do not care just go to show that system should not be there in the first place.
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Never cared for renown, so never really cared for deckhands.
Hopefully the issues these goofy looking npcs cause are fixed in v1.14 though.
I think Big V should at least lower Exotic>, maybe even Rare> rarity deckhands to below the PvE rep ceiling so that PvE players can at least get some deckhands on their crew, with Legendary Deckhands being something that someone has to go out of their way to really seek out to have the best possible ship stats through PvP
idk if this has been done already but if it hasnāt i feel itād be a good compromise
only advocating for pve availability cause me ping bad and i wanna sail dark sea
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The fuck? I never said anything about PVP and deckhands being good together. Whatās your problem? Are you actually trying to pick a fight rn?
PVP isnāt a distraction. Itās me actually getting better at the game I like to play, so shut the fuck up. How would you feel if I said PVE is a āfunā distraction? RENOWN is a measuring contest. You should actually try and improve in PVP before going and spitting on me.
yknow this is the first time ive considered typing anything in response to these arguments on the forum
heres what renown is (from my understanding, a guy who doesenāt really play much anymore):
renown is a feature which determines your alignment, either youre a hero or a villian. it measures the amount of actions youve done to either help the world or destroy it
on paper it seems like a fun mechanic, and a fun way to gain deckhands, as it is literally your reputation in the fictional world of the Arcane Universe.
yet when reputation, as a mechanic which allows you to gain deckhands, a feature itself which seems neat and small yet is going to matter much more in the future, becomes locked to only being gained through pvp combat, people get upset, as they have to fight other players
be it a limit of availability due to irl things, or just not wanting to fight others, as a person may prefer PVE over PVP, people are upset.
renown, a system which on paper would seem to be perfect for PVE, due to you being able to commit crimes, or assist others, becomes a PVP hellhole in which you need to grind for hours upon hours to gain small benefits which will put you above everyone else
so you might be wondering, why the hell did i type out all of this? heres why: people have a valid reason to be upset.
you replying to someone that was saying that pvp to them is just āsomething on the side, an optional thing to improve!ā by telling them to āshut the fuck upā is immature. people like having the ability to upgrade their boat in a sea-based game, the ability to get something faster and better in a giant racetrack! so when thatās restricted to a mechanic which as of now is only pvp based, upsets the balance of a casual player seeing pvp as a fun distraction. you now HAVE to do it to match those who did. if you donāt do it, youre punished by having those same people be able to catch upto you, have a stronger boat than you in fighting, have a advantage in the dark sea, which doesent let you get loot, but lets people who spent hours on deckhands get it easier , and thus creates a rabbit hole of pvp-caused problems in theory. People donāt want that. At the end of the day, the majority of first-time players, and generally players with under 150 hours (which is A LOT for a average roblox game) will see Arcane Odyssey as an exploration RPG where you battle NPCās to progress and get stronger. Rough meanings of Arcane Odyssey being a āPVP/PVEā game, probably wonāt get to new players as they just want a fun game to play, they donāt really care about specifics too much.
im not taking a stand in this argument, just saying that people have a valid reason to be upset
lmao this became so much longer than i thought hahahah
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Iām pissed off because I already made points that said āyeah pvp+renown shouldnāt be a pairā. I even made a suggestion about seperating deckhands and renown. This motherfucking bastard is putting words in my mouth, so I have a reason to be angry.
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Well, if I were you, Iād rather ask why theyre saying this, and what made them think it? Maybe itās your attitude as of late, and they misunderstood you.
Arguments are things we all wanna win, but theres a reason why a lot of school teachers teach us to write essays in a perspective where the reader doesenāt understand the topic fully, if at all.
Ask the guy why heās saying that, maybe heās genuinely confused.
Either way, this is the internet, I dunno why bother anyway.
Iām just stressed out, and I he started it anyway.
No worries, it happens to the best of us, chill out for a bit and come back in a couple hours.
If he keeps acting genuinely the same after our posts above, I think he may be doing it on purpose, but I hope it is rather just a misunderstanding.
Dw it is a misunderstanding. Thought he was one those pvp methheads who think pvp is the only thing that the game offers.
I started to PVP because I wanted to get better deckhands
I stopped PVPing because I couldnāt get better deckhands physicaly with my time (And also other problems)
You make good points, but saying renown and by extension deckhands are locked behind pvp is entirely false. Yes it is true that you need to pvp to get the best deckhands, but killing rivals and NPC contracts only start becoming ineffective past 500k renown. You can get decent deckhands at 500k renown. But I do agree with you, the system is dumb and inaccessible for the majority of players and the system needs to be changed.
Yeah, what youāre saying.
Itās sad that the influence you have on the world of the Arcane Universe with renown is just unadjustable past 500k besides combat with other players.
Deckhands with defense also become absurd at higher levels, which is locked at 500k for people who donāt want to spend hours farming or learning pvp due to a lack of interest.
Tl;dr, yeah, what you said
PvE is the way you get 99% of your loadoutās armors etc., if there were no PvEāers you would have less people to trade calvus armor for example. At least donāt attack haulers and kind people.
āGood at the gameā you say? PvE can also be hard and even painful, so if you see a guy that can solo grind Calvus or kill an entire Navy batallion on the open field you SHOULD consider them skilled, they just chose a different way of fighting, jumping from PvE to PvP may also get hard at times due to the amount of differences between two, in PvE you usually fight against bots with higher level, damage and health than you, while in PvP you fight people on your level, but equipped with a supercomputer - brain (sometimes).
Tell me ANY good and repeatable way to get tons of renown in PvE. No ideas? There is none.