Granted, the only reason for the downfall was not only PvP content but bugs and progression issues.
However, even though they exist, PvP was one of the only systems that created replayability between updates. Rivalries. Bounty hunting. Sea fights. Actual reasons to build for combat and log back in.
Now?
Everyone hides behind PvP toggle, finishes content, and quits. The world is empty. Servers are quiet (even PvP ones). There’s zero tension.
You turned a living MMO into a single-player grind sim. You killed immersiveness and interactivity, two key things that make a game fun.
We warned this would happen. You ignored it because you wanted comfort over longevity.
Congratulations. You got your safe seas.
Now the game is bleeding players at a rapid rate.
The only solution is a balance between PvP and PvE, not a barrier.
so there’s nothing wrong so tis just doom posting got it
if you want pvp you can always ask others to pvp wit u or join elysium/pvp guilds or join a clan if you want to play unsafe seas
The game isn’t ruined, Vetex still makes his money (and arguably makes more due to the addition of daily quests), you still get to enjoy what you enjoy of AO.
PVP still exists, you just need to join clan servers, hunt leaderboard players, and ask for others’ consent to duel them.
The replayability is still there, the reason to build for combat is still there and this reason of yours to log back in is entirely up to the subject.
A game doesn’t have to last forever to be a good game.
The world is much fuller than it ever has been, servers are quiet for very obvious reasons (chat age restriction), tension can be found in clan servers, the dark sea and in being a leaderboard player.
It never has been an MMO lmao. Get your video game genre classification right before making a comment on the state of the game, easy ban.
It’s also always been a grind simulator. And immersion is not dictated by how realistic a world is or if you can assault someone without their consent, as for interactivity, you can interact with other players in much more ways than before full-release and its world’s has only stagnated.
Lastly, what makes a game fun is how playable it is, not how realistic it gets. Go back to the real world and get into fights irl, how about that? Surely you’d love it given the criterias that you’re looking for.
Then just go and request duels, join elysiums, find a clan.
You’re actively avoiding PVP and are complaining about not encountering any forms of it anywhere, so the problem is you, not the game.
Onto another matter, please confess that this is your alt:
“The emotional tail wags the rational dog.” — Jonathan Haidt
Or as Dale Carnegie puts it:
“When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudice and motivated by pride and vanity.”
Right now this discussion is a perfect example of that.
Instead of engaging with the CCU argument, people immediately jumped to calling it bait, throwing insults, being edgy, and accusing one another. The topic was abandoned almost instantly.
If you don’t agree with me, that’s fine. Show me the flaws in my logic, data, or reasoning. But, turning this into a dogpiling helps nobody.
If there’s something wrong with the numbers, point it out. Otherwise, let’s stay on topic
