Guys, I think i found the issue with Tier lists, we’re thinking of the ranks as too far apart, where S tier is guarenteed victory, and D tier is unusable.
I’ve designed this tier list with numbers to help us visualize how most magics are basically the same and realistcally arent that different except for how fast they deal their damage:
and lets be real, this whole list wont matter as soon as full release drops and every magic sub-build has an easy way of dealing synergies with every other magic.
the melting, corroding and crystalized statuses in question:
and why are we bullying water bruh?? its literally explosion.
look at my favorite magic. Then look at what surrounds us.
hatred
Can i inform you how much I hate this map?
FUCK THE WATER.
DO YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TIMES I DIED, BECAUSE THE FLOOR IN SAMERIA BROKE INTO OPEN WATER, AND ALL MY ATTACKS VAPORIZED???
also i played water once and i didn’t like it.
Anyways, metal synergies (and by extension earths) are less useful because ima be honest, i dont see us getting a crystalized or corroding Fstyle or Weapon. You’re locked to using mage to get metal synergies, and thats not good. The extra damage is good, but pretty annoying to get unless you use potions; to be fair, Corroding, Melting, and crystalized last a good amount of time.
you really put wind in D tier
it should atleast be in B tier because its actually overpowered with the right build
ive fought a wind conjurer running 70 size and 150+ speed with 100 power. His attacks ALWAYS landed, were extremely fast, and dealt a good amount of damage too. He didn’t need to invest a lot into substats either to get this.
have you played against any metal or earth mage?
yes, i have; they are really bad to fight against. But Its only ever been mage, i haven’t seen metal warlock/conj in a while; and tbh, it was more-or-less mage was annoying being added to metal.
well wood is just kinda mid, mid damage, mid speed, mid size, but at least has a good arcanium
everything else is just… uhm. well, it applies bleeding like glass, but glass can stack bleeding, it has size… like metal… but metal has more damage and mid speed… slower than explosion and explosion has more size than wood with a bit less damage
ye wood is mid
fire s tier earth s tier lightning s tier
everything else doesnt matter (i love acid still though)
0.95 power is actually quite high, only 5 magics are above it, one equal and its shadow.
its speed is average, but way better than Earth/Metal.
Its size is fair, but considering its high power, and comparably good speed (to metal and earth), its very good stat-wise.
Compared to other bleed magics, its quite unique to them; and has its good uses, especially because its better for hybrids than Metal/Earth because heat imbues are more common right now. out of the main “heavy” magics (earth/metal/wood). as for Wood VS Explosion, again, one has a status, the other one has charred.
Its a fine magic, and by definition mid doesnt equal d tier, it equals average; and most tierlists have majority of Magics in A-B tier, so wood needs to be there.
ye kinda btw wood looks ugly why vetex didnt want to make wood more sharpy, it looks like poop magic
WHY DOES EVERY TIERLIST RANK LIGHTNING SO LOW
THIS IS CRIMINAL
CRIMINAL I TELL YOU!
(complete sentence)
Here’s my list, put in the “How much I like them” order.
This is just cool colors to warm colors from top to bottom
since attack speed nerfs lightning was gutted, btw balance team is planning to nerf synergies, so… lighting soaked synergy is going to be 5% instead of 10% (+2.5% for conjurers on sunken sword yeyyy)
lightning conjurers just can’t stop losing 
lightning is still really good tho trust me guys 
lightning beam has same start up than ash beam even if you use 100 attack speed only with lightning
i don’t think magic speed affinity affects startup speed at all
then you are admitting that metal and earth are better
20% over 5 seconds that can be applied too many ways, or great heat based catalyst? your choice ofc
that’s because its not mid. Its terrible. Absolutely atrocious. Disgusting. It makes me annoyed when I see “Timber Blast!” from some random NPC who thought they were so wise as to choose the worst magic in the game. It makes me furious when I see a player shove some cubes of wood on their hands and call that crap “Wooden Searing Crash!” All magics in this game were created to be equal, and none are inherently bad, except wood. Wood is the worst magic.
its cool in Naruto tho.
I only said they were good, not that Wood was bad. even in that comment, I already had stated that Wood could do a better job than Metal, because honestly, i just fought another metal mage and it still proved to me that metal isnt all that (Earth is still atrocious, because that was the other guy i fought).
Bleed is still a great status. and by your definition of many ways: only one magic can apply it guaranteed, the rest are weapons or magics that require high percentages. Bleed is still a great proc because most Magics get a 15%+ Damage boost from it, its almost equal to charred while also still doing something by itself; and not forcing you to run dual heat abilities and become semi-aquaphobic.
Wood is a cool respectable magic, you’re just mad you’re not as cool of a material as him. This is why Wotan will beat us, we keep disrespecting a cool material that did nothing wrong. You’ll see one day.
If we use EP as a measure:
First column is pure EP, second is EP with dot, other statuses are accounted for.
