As of right now, vitality, to put it simply, feels more like a trade-off than a stat.
It really doesn’t make sense as to why vitality shouldn’t be able to deal as much damage as other builds, seeing as vitality isn’t buffing any damage, and sure they’re bulkier but they also have less skills compared to things like a mage or a conjurer and so on.
Like this “you get and you lose” treatment seems so unfair considering no other stat has any form of penalty and all of those other stats can arguably be considered to be really difficult to fight against too.
This is honestly like saying “Oh well magic stat should weaken your movement abilities” it just ruins the stat for no reason whatsoever and makes the game less enjoyable overall.
The proposal to fix this? it’s simple.
remove vitality damage reduction entirely.
It seems a good enough trade off that vitality builds have less skills compared to the other stats, in exchange for having higher bulk and spirit weaponry, which by the way, drains HP, so it’s still relatively fair to fight against.
I hope that this actually is comprehendible to you guys or this is just me going on an unhinged rant that nobody will care about but do consider it.
Absolutely. You lose energy, you lose damage, and you lose a huge chunk of your moveset to gain… the same effect as wearing a Hard Defense Amulet.
This should be removed come the introduction of Spirit Weapons, but should absolutely be implemented until then.
Paladin has no Shapes, no Ultimate Arts, and no Pulsar. You can’t even change the type of Explosion you use on your second magic.
Juggernaut has no Embodiments, no Ultimate Arts, and no Axe-Slash. You get pretty much nothing but Crash from your second Fighting Style.
Knight loses access to Warrior’s AoE due to being forced down a tier, and does not get many of the weapons that make Warrior strong. Not to mention the horrific damage.
Please, for the sake of the few Vitality mains out there, let this get implemented temporarily.
As of right now, Vitality is useless, yes, but dont forget that its basicly lacks route’s feature - spirit weapons.
Like yeah, i can agree that damage reduction is stupid, but knowing that spirit weapons are scaled of vitality, i have mixed feeling about it.
The problem will remain intact even then. Vitality builds would have a way of damage but would make their main source of combat unviable. A paladin should not be forced to use spirit weapons instead of their actual magic. At the very least I think the damage reduction from vitality should be heavily nerfed, as I dont think vetex has thought out the losing of damage after a few level cycles. By level 250 the damage from a vitality build’s magic or fs would be so pityful compared to other builds he would have to nerf the damage reduction anyway. At the very least vitality builds should get a way to buff their damage. Maybe a vitality exclusive armor set, that scales your damage with your health. If you have a full health bar you’ll do quite a bit more damage, but if your healthbar is under half you’ll do less, but still not as low as without the armor.
I think snare in general should be buffed, maybe have it be more like a grab that fires you away, or have it have a small jump distance like rushdown for fighting styles.
I think it makes sense to remove or reduce the damage reduction on Vitality, but the thing is that, assuming you’re going for an even 125/125 Paladin or Juggernaut build, you’re losing your Aura spell or Focus/Airstep technique in exchange for 500 HP, which are far from equal. Perhaps instead of losing damage, you lose… I don’t know, Speed? When I think of strong or wall-like characters in other games, they are typically very slow to make up for the sheer amount of damage they can withstand.
This also isn’t considering how Spirit Weapons aren’t planned to be worked on until after the game’s full Bronze Sea release happens (which I feel is bizarre at-best, since every non-pure Vitality build is usable right now).
